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Ancient fatherly advice
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go caesar it’s ur death day
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Hetalia RNG Showdown - Quarterfinal #14
Pick a character, any character! You can pick your favourite, a contender, a darkhorse, an underdog, or just pick the most chaotic choice possible!
This polls opens October 10 2023 12:00PM PDT and closes October 17 2023 11:59AM PDT.
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Please do spill some of your Mama Greece hcs sometime if you feel comfortable because I love your thoughts on her
You have unleashed a beast Grammy. Here's a brief life history of my Mama Greece. (I can say so much more)
Human Name: Helene (also Lavinia, we'll get to it)
Her father was Mycenae (Mycenaean Greece). She looked up to him greatly as a child.
I headcanon that the City-States of Greece were also personified, and that Helene represented the Greek World as a whole, the one that followed after Mycenae Greece. The City-States aren't really related to her, I kind of characterize them as a cousins.
The City-States don't have much personality that I've decided, but Sparta was a women and a badass, and Athens was a philosophizing misogynist.
For a long time, because Helene represented the Greek World as a whole and the City-States were in charge of themselves she mostly got to spend her time doing whatever the hell she wanted. Disguising herself as a man often, and becoming a genius in mathematics and philosophy. She wasn't so much bothered with war and work for a long time, though she was was a skilled sword woman. She spent much of her time in this period in a hedonistic lifestyle (and I like to think she was involved with the Cult of Dionysus)
And then there was Persia. Their relationship was one you could call enemies with benefits. Vitriolic, Helene didn't much like him, but he was a good fuck. Their relationship got worse overtime, though there was a mutual respect between the two. Basically the France and England of the Ancient times.
When Macedonia began to conquer Greece, I characterize this as him killing off the City-States. Now obviously these places lived on, but it was still a turning point in Greek history, and I think eventually Macedonia would go after Helene - to become the "true" Greek World - and Helene would kill him in turn.
This is when Helene takes on a lot more responsibility. She becomes more a warrior and get into politics. This is also around the time where she and Persia have their final match and she kills him.
Greece is born around this time. Either he pops out of the ground and she finds him, or she actually gives birth to him. I headcanon he comes out of the ground. Either way, he is her and Persia's son and is born during the Hellenistic Period. (What will eventually become Iran is also born of this union and Idk if Helene had any contact with her at this time)
Gonna skip forward a bit to her relationship with Rome. Rome is a complex relationship. They did deeply love each other, Rome more so. He would call her the Venus to his Mars. That said, he still cheated on her frequently, and she could never truly forgive him for taking over her. Still, they were married. They were a devoted, loving couple. She was a vital part of him and his muse in many respects. And she helped raise his children. Romano was her son with Rome, and she was one of Veneziano's mothers (Vene has two mothers, her and Gaul, and Rome is obviously his father.)
(Rome tried to bring Gaul back home once and Helene shut that shit down quickly.)
She lived off and on between her house in her homelands and Rome's villa. I don't know where Greece was at the time, although a part of me wants to say Greece was not allowed to be raised in Rome's home with his sons. So possibly Greece spent most of his time when he and his Mama would visit Rome living with the servants and Helene would be sure to visit him throughout the day and make sure he was doing alright. When they would return to her home she would make sure she could be as openly affectionate with him as possible.
The "Divorce" happens when she becomes the Eastern Roman Empire, which Rome wasn't exactly a fan of. She moved to Constantinople with Greece, though she and Rome may have sometimes had secret trysts.
I have this imagine in my head that when he died she found his body and slipped his bloody helmet off of his head and placed it on her own. She renamed herself the Byzantine Empire and took on a new human name, Lavinia. The ancient of wife of Aeneas.
Also, as Byzantine she marries Kievan Rus (Olga) or at least they become a couple for a while, which makes her technically Ukraine, Russia, and Belarus's other mother. There was some love there, but their relationship was strained. She was not much of a mother to Rus's kids as well, though Ukraine has memories of Mama Byzantine and how powerful and glorious she was.
As for Romano and Veneziano, both were territories for her at a time, but I think she would have left them in their respective territories to be educated/raised by their people in charge. They are just a reminder of their father and what he did to her, though she does miss them and sometimes visit them. I think losing Romano would've been harder on her than losing Veneziano. Romano was always her favorite of the two, plus the loss of Southern Italy was different than the loss of Venice. She willingly gave Veneziano indepdence. Romano she held onto for a long time but eventually lost.
...Plus little Veneziano would eventually take the attitude of "Fuck You This Is Mine Now" and played a part in her weakening when he not only funded a trip to reinstate a deposed Byzantine prince but then looted and pillaged Constantinople when he didn't get his money back and took some more of her lands. Bad Veneziano. Sit in your corner and think about what you've done (I genuinely don't know how this works with his canon personality but this did all happen irl) (also yes I see Veneziano as Venice because I find that to make the most sense and be coolest for his character)
And then we fast forward to her eventual death at the hands of Turkey. Do I think he loved her? ...I think he was in awe of her. I think he loved the idea of her. I think he looked at her history and I think he wished that he could be like her or wished that he could be with her. But also, he did kill her. In my imagery laden mind he finds her under an olive tree and killed her there. Maybe there was a fight. Maybe she finally accepted it.
tl;dr: Helene starts as the heir to a power vacuum after the death of her father, but instead of taking charge and responsibility she spends her time doing as she pleases and learning while the city-states handle things. Until Macedonia roles up and she kills him before he can kill her and she takes charge, she kills her rival and sometimes lover Persia and he gives her her greatest treasure Herakles, her son. And also has a daughter that she doesn't interact with much. She marries Rome to survive and forms a loving, if dysfunctional marriage and has another son Romano, and there's also Veneziano who is her son with Rome but also Gaul. When Rome is killed she takes her place as the Byzantine empire and spends years just trying to survive and adapt and persevere until finally she accepts her death at the hands of Turkey.
For personality headcanons: I characterize her being motivated by a fear of death to collect as many skills as possible and adapt to her surroundings. The Greeks HATED talking about death and I think that would bleed over into her actual beliefs. I think she rarely, if ever, let herself die, because she was always afraid that she would die for the final time.
By the end of her life she is a full on genius. Math, language, astronomy, art, philosophy, even music and theatre. She had this insatiable curiosity and need to learn that sometimes overtook her best instincts of survival.
Physical Headcanons: 6'0'' because I can. Her body fluctuates between incredibly muscular, on the thicker side, and thin from weakness over her many years of life. For some basic ages: By the the she kills Persia she is physically in her early twenties. Late twenties when she marries Rome. Early thirties when she takes over as Byzanties. Early-Mid forties at her death (Turkey is into Milfs).
This is what I think she would have looked like probably around the time she married Rome. It is missing a few details. She's not as tanned as I imagine her, she doesn't have the moles I imagine her having, and I couldn't get her nose right-I imagine she has a hooked nose.
#did you not ask for a brief (IN WHAT WORLD IS THIS BRIEF?) history of mama greece's entire lifestory?#historical hetalia#hetalia#hws#hws mama greece#aph mama greece#hws ancient greece#aph ancient greece#hws romano#aph romano#hws greece#aph greece#hws ancient rome#aph ancient rome#i have so many thoughts on veneziano and romano's childhood#and i'm SO MAD that 1100 years after rome's death IN CANON they are STILL CHIBIS#ask me about my beloved misunderstood genius romano with adhd and autism#technically i headcanon mama greece's name to be helen but helene works just the same#her entire history and personality is defined by a desire to survive and keep going#turkey being into milfs is my favorite thing ever#oh god I hope this post goes over well
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it's about time i made Hetalia OCs:
presenting the Visigothic Kingdom and he Ostrogothic Kingdom, two sisters in Late Antiquity
Lore post here!!
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Spain: I'm just glad I managed to grow up without any Daddy issues.
Portugal: Toninho, you took over dad's capital!
Spain: Look who's part of Hispania now, papá!
#hetalia#hws spain#aph spain#hws portugal#aph portugal#hetalia axis powers#hetalia world stars#hws ancient rome#aph ancient rome
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This post for Hetalia fans (if someone exist here) and me cuz I really love this two
Ancient Germany and Ancient Rome
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This is not to hate on any of my etruria and Rome truthers I appreciate you guys but just a thought
Etruria is a confederation
It's like Greece, it has a lot of city states, which were independent from one another, which means. You cannot really get a unified read on Etruria's relationship with Rome
Some city allied themselves with Rome and some of them were destroyed by the Romans.
I am not saying you have to personify 12 cities which we know little to nothing abt just a thought if it would be helpful in y'all endeavors :3
(If you want to follow follow my main blog @/serica-e which provides info on current events and not this one please)
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6.19.23 gorm n rome, meeting for the 1st time in 43 AD
#vuhdezart#jun 2023#fanart#hetalia#hws britannia#hws ancient rome#britannia x rome#not me finishing this at 5am cuz a friend wanted to thirst after gorm 😂#aph britannia#aph ancient rome
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fanon by fandom: Rome tragically died in 476, when germanic mercenaries overthrew the usurper Augustulus with the blessing of the byzantine emperor.
fanon by me: Rome successfully survived the fall of the Empire due to Rome's central position in the church hierarchy and continues to chill as the Vatican right up to the present day.
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Meanwhile Rome: 👍 my boy can get it
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Hear me out for a sec.
Grandpa Rome with a beard.
That was all. Thank you for your time.
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Hetalia RNG Showdown - Quarterfinal #10
Pick a character, any character! You can pick your favourite, a contender, a darkhorse, an underdog, or just pick the most chaotic choice possible!
This polls opens March 28 2024 12:00PM PDT and closes April 4 2024 11:59AM PDT.
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#hetalia#rng showdown#quarterfinals#hws australia#hws ancient egypt#hws ancient rome#hws austria#hws germania#aph australia#aph ancient egypt#aph ancient rome#aph austria#aph germania
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Rome and England suggestions? The naming of Manchester. Coming from the Brittonic "mamm" meaning "breast" and the Latin "castrum" meaning fort.
Manchester means boob fort and it would be funny to see this
Hysterical Roman laughing
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OCs: Visigothic Kingdom and Ostrogothic Kingdom
disclaimer: everything in history is complicated blah blah blah not everyone in these kingdoms was like that blah blah blah
Visigothic Kingdom:
Made an official nation in 418 AD (though existed for a few centuries earlier as a nomadic tribe), and died in 721 AD to the Umayyad troops under Al-Andalus. The nation sacked Rome in 410, which is widely regarded as the beginning of the fall of the Western Roman Empire. The kingdom then settled down in the Iberian peninsula (primarily Spain and parts of France). Though initially a pagan nation, the kingdom converted to Christianity in the mid-5th century.
The human name the personification chose was Adelaide, a Germanic name that meant "noble kind." She is just as much a soldier as her sister, having had a very rowdy teenagehood, but now prefers to stay away from conflicts when possible, instead focusing on diplomacy. She is neither talkative nor social, choosing to stay by her sister's side or in her own home. She keeps her distance from the Roman Empire after the sacking, and though she knows that she could beat him once more, she wants to focus her sights on more scholarly manners. She comes across and adopts a baby Spain, keeping him close by her at all times and teaching him what she feels is important for a young country to know- religion (with both Christian and Pagan elements), how to fight (though he's just a toddler), and basic grammar and rhetors. Once her sister died, she isolated herself and Spain to the best of her extent, uncomfortable with coming in contact with other nations, since she didn't know their true intentions.
Ostrogothic Kingdom:
Having existed for a few centuries prior like her sister, the kingdom officially became a nation in 469, just a few years before the Western Roman Empire fell and she took the land. She had mixed relations with Rome over the past few centuries, sometimes being lovers and occasionally mortal enemies, though they remained primarily friendly adversaries in 476, after she took what was left of the Western Roman Empire. Like her sister, she was initially Germanic pagan, but converted to Christianity in the early 5th century.
Her human name is Brunhilda, which in Germanic origin means "battle-ready." This is very indicative of her personality, fiery and always up for a battle. She keeps herself in warriors cloth, clad with a chainmail tunic, just in case anyone tries to stab her in the back. She is the closest with Adelaide, but she is much more social and willing to get to know (and fight) other nations. Her relationship with Rome is the most well-known, but she also has had brief interactions with Germania (The Frankish Empire) and the Vandal tribe in the south. Though she loved Spain as an aunt, she didn't invest much time in him, since she was dodgy around the concept of parenthood, and didn't want to fuck him up in any significant way.
She died in 553 AD, very young and tragically. Though she fought and took land bravely, she had a difficult time maintaining infrastructure, and the Gothic culture was something that couldn't be Romanized in the way she intended. The Frankish Empire (who we know as Germania) swept in and ended her reign with a blow to the back. She died in Adelaide's arms, mumbling prayers and apologies to any God she could remember.
Other Notes:
After the fall of the Western Roman Empire, Rome as we know him still existed, simply just the Eastern Roman Empire. He still saw himself as Rome, though around the time of the birth of the Holy Roman Empire, he retired his position as a nation and gave the official title to the Byzantine Empire, a teenage nation who was born at the fall of the West. He spent the rest of his retirement painting with Chibitalia, and died in the early 15th century, leaving Northern Italy to Austria.
Germania is the Frankish Empire (Francia, starting around 800 AD). Though the nation faced unstable shifts in power, the personification was strong and raised the children in the show that we know of (France, HRE, Teutonic Order/Prussia, Switzerland, Belgium, Luxembourg, and the Netherlands)
Spain was taken into the care of Umayyad Caliphate after the death of the Visigothic Kingdom, where he converted to Islam and grew into his teenaged years. The Spanish Umayyads fell in 1031 to Spain himself, and Spain converted back to Christianity in the late 15th century.
#historical hetalia#hetalia ocs#historical hetalia ocs#hws spain#aph spain#hetalia ancients#hws ancient rome#aph ancient rome#hws germania#aph germania#this is so long im so sorry#nobody is going to read this#yippee
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Mandatory ask about Iberia and her relationship with her boys after Caju's ask ♡
Yay! Hi Oxi!
Iberia was a warrior first, so she was strick with her boys, she made sure they knew how to fend for themselves, so she would strap them on her back and take them to the montains and the woods to hunt and train. When Rome came over, she would send them to him because the bastard had to do his part. They were like bitter divorced parents.
As the oldest, I think she was particulary strick with Lusitania. He had to look after Hispania, make sure he didn't die eating poisoned berries or wandered off to be eaten by wolves. He'd also spend more time with her, since he ran away from Rome so often, listening to her stories, fishing, hunting and braiding their hair (like her, Lusitania kept his hair long no matter how much Rome wanted him to cut it). She would also threathen to castrate Rome whenever he insinuated her boy was a barbarian.
Hispania was her baby boy. She was strick with him, but he managed to win her over with his bright smile and cuddling with her. I like to think Hispania wanted his mama and papa to get along, wanted his big brother to get along too, but they were all so stubborn! Plus, Hispania was daddy's boy, he worshiped Rome, which made Iberia a bit sad, but also furious whenever Rome disappointed her baby by not visiting when he had promised.
I said it before, but I think the relationship was complex because Iberia knew her sons birth meant her time was coming to an end. She loved them and wanted to make sure they would be okay when she was gone. Also, two sons meant her land was going to be divided and that hardly ended well. Like Romulus and Remus, she knew her sons would end up fighting each other, maybe one would even kill the other. It was just the way things worked.
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