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Feyre: “I love her compassion and that at her lowest she still felt for other people. She has an unbreakable compassion.
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Compassion??? Bitch where?? 💀😭
How- like- No I just want to understand the logic? How is Feyre compassionate?
At her lowest she felt for other people??
What?
She- she didn't feel for them, she helped kill them? She- literally was the reason behind the sacking of Spring and invasion of Summer and mass murder of thousands of people- Like she even acknowledges it?? In Acowar she says "these people were innocent" but later in the high lords meeting she says "the people I had lain bare to Hybern" She thought she was girl boss for destroying and uprooting peoples lives because she is so compassionate???
She belittled Tarquins trauma, mind-r*ped him, stole from him because she is so compassionate???
Left Tamlin in a letter because she is compassionate??
Used Lucien, a victim of a SA, to manipulate and create a rift between him and his only emotional support system because she is so compassionate??? Then after he was abused by said support system and found a new one she thought it was compassionate to make fun of it??
She didn't feel compassion for her own sister? Like Nesta was struggling and miss ma'ams solution was to what lock her in a tower? Cause that's so healthy and compassionate?????
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feyres-divorce-lawyer · 6 months
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sigh
anyways, vote for my mom pls!
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andramoreaux · 1 year
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Ok. As we have no freedom in this fandom with the army of stans, I want to hear your crack ships and ideas that contradict cannot entirely. Let's rewrite the books! Send asks, comment, reblog, whatever you want.
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captainnswift · 2 years
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someone asked for an explanation of why rhys, cassian and azriel are just as bad as tamlin and then when i explained they said ‘it’s almost like it’s dark fantasy for a reason’ and then blocked me. why are these stans all the same. is me not liking a predatory fictional man that threatening to you?? sjm come get your stans
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an-angrygod · 2 years
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Ok what’s with people having no medical degree or psychological experience diagnosing others with mental disorders. Like not even researching just declaring it. Because of their own bias.
Self diagnosed is one thing but diagnosing others is just not ok. And stereotyping disorders? Just please don’t, it’s tough enough for us anyway.
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You just had to be there…
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dameaylins · 2 months
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on my "anti elain/anti elriels are allergic to reading comprehension" tirade; taking the word of nesta (who is literally proven in the same book to be unreliable when it comes to her perspective of elain with her "elain is like a dog" comment that cassian later disproves) on blind faith about how elain would love the spring court or that it was "made for someone like her" simply because it has flowers when, in the first book, we are explicitly told that there is no gardening done in the spring court- which is what elain actually enjoys about flowers, the actual process of gardening and getting her hands dirty. it's like sjm is trying to tell us something about elain and how fundamentally no one in the inner circle (cough, besides azriel, cough) understands her as a person.
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astrababyy · 4 months
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people who pretend amarantha would’ve actually stopped pillaging prythian, specifically the spring court, if tamlin “sucked it up” and gave himself over to her are so funny to me because like,,, she wouldn’t have stopped. rhysand gave himself over to her, and the night court was still freaking decimated lmao. the only part of the night court that wasn’t damaged was velaris, but the rest faced the brunt of amarantha’s reign of terror to protect that city. amarantha wouldn’t have stopped if tamlin submitted to her. she would’ve continued her reign of terror, and tamlin would’ve suffered even worse, all for nothing.
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ofbreathandflame · 8 months
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You’re right, Feyre stans are rarely just Feyre stans.
hi anon!
yep! this was specifically solidified for me after silver flames came out. feyre stans have been conditioned to always validate rhysand's intention over feyre's opinion. again - feyre has established that she:
(1) does not want rhysand to speak about her sisters in a disrespectful manner. feyre validates rhysand emotions about her sisters - meaning she isn't saying (and im not saying) that rhysand doesn't have a right to feel a certain way about her sisters. but that rhysand's feelings should not manifest in jabs and disrespectful words:
“Rhys said smoothly, “I’m not entirely sure Velaris is prepared for Nesta Archeron.” “My sister’s not some feral animal,” I snapped. Rhys recoiled a bit, the others suddenly finding the carpet, the divan, the books incredibly fascinating. “I didn’t mean that.”
feyre to rhysand.
“So she keeps saying, over and over,” Amren grumbled. I shot her a glare. “Careful.”
feyre to amren.
that's a boundary being set - clear as day. feyre does not approve or condone outright disrespect of her sisters. this has nothing to do with how we believe xyz or what rhys has a right to do, but what feyre has established as a no go.
(2) that she does not feel comfortable with rhysand being overly protective, to the point he withholds information, is overly violent, or conflicts with her wants:
“It’s hard to shut down my instincts.” Instincts. Just like … like someone else had instincts to protect, to hide me away. “Then you should have prepared yourself better,” I snapped. “You seemed to be going along just fine with it, until Keir said—”
rhys to feyre; feyre to rhys (acomaf)
(3)feyre doesn't care about instincts (as is an excuse used in sf), here she is telling rhys straight up that he needs to prepare himself better. bc she DOES NOT feel comfortable with the way rhys expressed his frustration. and again feyre is sympathetic to his reasonings, but she does not believe his intentions (in this case) justify the way he chooses to go about these things.
“I craned my neck to look up at him. “Never lie to me again. Not about that.”
feyre to rhys (acowar)
(4) again - feyre establishing a boundary. never lie to her about anything, especially important things.
feyre (and also fucking amren) also establishes that she doesn't believe that keeping her sisters couped up in the house of wind to be productive or helpful:
“If you want to start convincing your sisters, get them out of the House. Being cooped up never helped anyone.”
amren to feyre (acowar)
and nesta has established to rhys that she wants no interest in cassian:
“Nesta had made it clear enough she had no interest in Cassian—not even in being in the same room as him. I knew why. I’d seen it happen, had felt that way plenty.”
rhysand to az (acofas)
feyre also establishes - to rhys - that her she knows her sisters don't do well with public humiliation, and making a scene:
“ “I shouldn’t have asked her in public. I made a mistake.” and “I loosed a long sigh. “I should have considered that telling strangers what happened to her in Hybern might … might not be something she was comfortable with. My sister has been a private person her entire life, even amongst us.”
feyre to rhys (acowar).
im saying allll of this to say that in sf - rhysand literally takes all of these boundaries and shits on them. even his creation of the intervention conflicits against what feyre establishes: (1) her sister is a private person, and will not respond well to public humilation (2) nesta wants nothing to do with cassian (3) her sisters are not healty being in the house of wind and (4) feyre wants to be looped in and considered every step of the way. even the act of creating an intervention that goes so instinctively against feyre's wishes is an act of deep disrespect. that feyre stans can see these moments and still justify them bc their hatred for nesta and obsession w/ rhys trumps their 'love' for feyre. its a conditional like. here feyre is the victim and instead of writing metas and ff about feyre being done dirty by rhysand - they flock to justify rhysand's point to the point where they're willing to ignore feyre's opinions. its not abt how much we like / dislike the sisters. but how rhys's behavior conflicts against feyre's wants and boundaries. its about how those feyre stans would rather validate rhys then stand by feyre's emotions. to imply that rhysand's actions were appropriate means u place his actions above feyre.
feyre is adult and mature enough to manage her emotions, she not a child, she is perfectly able to stand-up and put her foot down. and she has - on multiple occasions retorted and fought back against her sisters - to consistently pretend feyre is a child who needs rhys to cosign and stand body-guard when feyre is perfectly able to do it herself says so much abt those 'stans' than they are willing to admit.
like feyre was able to face down tamlin - her abuser - all by her damn self. she's not some child who needs people to consistently defend her by undermining her opinions. if she wanted rhys to be an asshole to nesta - we would have saw that. instead we got this:
“That’s enough,” Feyre snapped at Rhys. “I told you to keep out of it.” He dragged his star-flecked eyes to his mate, and it was all Nesta could do to keep from collapsing onto the couch as her knees gave out at last. Feyre angled her head, nostrils flaring, and said to Rhysand, “You can either leave, or you can stay and keep your mouth shut.”
we got feyre telling rhys and amren that she did not want them to behave that way. and even after that. both rhys and amren continue ignoring feyre's requests. feyre is not respected - these are not the actions of people who respect her as an equal. she's a child to them , and they believe they know better.
idk - if i were a feyre stan- yall would never have shut me up if my fav was treated like a doormat and sidelined. i would have been writing scathing metas on rhys and the ic. - i wouldve been explaining exactly why rhys withholding information was wrong - not just vaguely saying he was wrong and then justifying why he did it. i would have been an amren hater #1 for how she continually undermined feyre. idk...yall are not real feyre shooters. like damn your fav is catching strays by the author and the readers and you're only focused on how nesta factors into that equation?? like youve got bigger problems to worry abt here. feyre has been continually and consistently phased out of her own story by the author and that don't bother yall? hmm couldnt be me tho.
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littlefeltsparrow · 9 months
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And what if I told you that Nesta was well within her right to reveal the truth to Feyre? What if I told you that Nesta revealing the truth spitefully or in a mean way was in no way comparable to the IC’s lies to Feyre? WHAT IF I TOLD YOU that I couldn’t care less how she said it, just that she said it at all?
Nesta seems to be the only one with the tenacity to unmask the unending facade of the IC. She might be a bitch, but at least she’s honest. If anything, she does right by Feyre for telling her the truth and I will always have more respect for her than the immortal clique who lied to Feyre for months to “protect her”. Oh how noble of them! And here I was thinking that they respected Feyre as a strong and competent leader (guess I was wrong)
The IC is more enraged by the knowledge of a terrible act being spoken aloud than the act itself. It’s as if they live to maintain a certain type of decorum that really just sweeps their troubles, trauma and grievances under the rug. Nesta telling the truth was a violation of that conduct, it was an act that unmasked the IC for what it has been this entire time. A tightly knit clique who enforce their views on others and see the Archeron as inherently beneath them. As such, considering their feelings, opinions and autonomy is unnecessary. (Because they apparently know best)
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bookishfeylin · 8 months
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People LEGITIMATELY believe that no one could possibly be harmed or killed during the toppling of a government on the brink of invasion…
What are the Feysand stans on??????
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Not stans saying stop comparing Sjm who writes MaStErPiECeS to stupid ass CoHo who only writes toxic relationship
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What masterpieces 😭😭😭😭 point me in that direction pls 🥹🥹🥹🥹
Both CoHo and Sjm gained popularity by aiming their badly written toxic books to underage children. Both gained popularity because of the brainless twats on booktok who only read "for the aesthetic" both write toxic TOXIC and abusive relationships and glorify men who shud be behind bars as HAWT AND SAINTLY name one and I mean ONE Sjm or Coho male who isn't toxic as fuck who doesn't have a single red flag and I'll go touch some grass. Tryna be "woke" and writing for publicity is why they got popular in the first place (except for the selling porn to children thing) I can assure u both of them are horrible authors
Idk much about CoHo books cause yuck but what I do know is 19 y/o fcking a 16 y/o; saying the wrong name in bed; cheating on ur bedridden wife; wanting to push the girl down on floor to keep her from leaving; etc etc and then?? BOOM! past trauma makes it justified and the actual Main Character does the mental gymnastics to manipulate even the reader into thinking the Love Interest is the BEST BOYFRIEND IN THE WHORLD. Sound a little familiar?
Rhys sexually assaulted his soulmate. Enters into her mind tells the room her personal thoughts threatens to crack her mind? He murders ppl and throws a head into ur backyard for fun?? Hides information about his wife's pregnancy that cud KILL HER?! And that's not even all of it
Rowan PHYSICALLY abuses Aelin. NO SHUT UP OKAY HE COMPARES HER TO HIS DEAD WIFE AND SAYS YEH NO AELIN IS TOTALLY MY TYPE AND SHE WASN'T?!?!?!?!?
B-but he has trauma 🥺🥺🥺🥺
So what? That's supposed to completely justify the trauma he's caused the main character???
The way these authors have no respect for their own main character??? They're just a mouth piece for them to admire the Male Character. They have no agency. Their entire validation comes from the male love interest?? And uk what u want to write dark romance?? Be my guest?? Write dark romances idc but admit that it's a toxic relationship admit and tell ur readers that NO this is not what u shud look for irl but for God's sake STOP glorifying abusive men and toxic relationships and marketing it to young women
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feyres-divorce-lawyer · 4 months
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... but now I want to know the cursed knowledge... 👀👀
had to remember what post this was ngl. anyways, when i was still on the stan side of the fandom there were a lot of acowar au fanfics where what feyre did was essentially taken from bad to worse, and still somehow tamlin would be blamed for further destruction. the one fanon in question tho was this one fic where tamlin somehow knew that feyre was there as a spy and then proceeded to, continue under the cut cuz this shit gets graphic. tw: rape, torture
then proceeded to imprison her and like graphically rape her almost everyday and torture, like actual almost medieval torture, info abt the nc out of her. even as someone who didn’t like tamlin then, i had to click out when it got so fucking depressing cuz like he wouldn’t, not in a million years, hurt anyone like that. and now looking back the author put feyre through all that for literally the sole purpose of making tamlin a villain. her internal monologue was like “oh of course he would do this, he’s so evil” it was just torture porn and senseless, and i never finished it but i wouldn’t be surprised if the author pulled a got and made feyre say that shit made her stronger or something. now as a firm anti, tamlin anti authors have this strange obsession with making him physically abusive beyond what was canon and they always hurt feyre to do it. she’s not even a person to them, just a device to make tamlin evil so they can get off on how morally superior they are, while forgetting that their headcannons are just that.
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andramoreaux · 1 year
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Ok. Andfuckfeysand is harassing me now. Time to have some fun!
Mutuals, sorry for the madness that is going to cover this blog for the next hour or so.
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nestarcheronmommy · 9 months
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Nesta antis:
"I hate Nesta cause she was an horrible person"
*Proceeds to be the worst person and say more rude things than Nesta has ever said in her life to real people*
At least Nesta is funny.
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"Criticizng Feyre for her choices is misogyny!"
Actually Feyre is a fictional character who exists in a story which is written by an author.
And since we're on the topic, Feyre has the bare minimum of agency in her OWN story. She doesn't do anything that her [super-powered male] love interest disapproves of and never questions his decisions apart from the bare minimum needed to show that she's an empowered girlboss(tm). Her characterization is hugely inconsistent and frequently retconned because she's less a character in a story than she is vehicle for navel gazing at the actual main character of the ACOTAR universe - her male hetero love interest, round whom the planet revolves.
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