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votel4dybird · 1 year

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bylerisrequited · 2 years

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damn that's crazy

#byler #anti m*leven #mike wheeler #el hopper #stranger things #stranger things 4

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butterflysonnets · 3 months

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yes i'm rooting for m*leven breakup because byler is neat but mostly? i'm rooting for m*leven breakup for the sake of el and mike.

to me, their romance was always a puppy love born out of a combination of social pressures, naïve curiosity, and a lack of true understanding regarding intimacy and romantic love and what it really is. it was real in that they do truly, deeply care about each other and they are close friends, maybe even shared an attraction, but a maturing romance is so much more than that. they've grown up and out of being boyfriend/girlfriend, and that's okay! i think television/film needs to show more often that most of us don't have definite "soulmates" or first childhood loves that we spend our whole lives with. it doesn't mean these relationships meant nothing and didn't impact us, it just means they've run their course and that something else is in the cards, and this is part of life!

i've always felt el was at her best and most confident self when broken up with mike, discovering who she was and what she liked alongside another girl her age instead of just relying on mike for mentorship on how to live in the real world. she deserves more of an opportunity to find herself, her autonomy, and her independence, and to love who she is, and she's made it clear she's felt insecure in the relationship with mike because she isn't being loved and understood the way she wants, needs, and deserves from someone who is her partner.

also, it's okay if mike doesn't love her in "the way he should". he is not obligated to love her romantically and stay in a relationship with her just because she's a girl, because she "needed someone", or because he cares about her a lot. he shouldn't be pressured into a romance if it's not truly coming from his heart. he deserves freedom to find out and honour who he is, too, instead of just staying in his non-functional first relationship — one he got into as a child, essentially — and defining himself that way because it's what's expected when a boy and a girl are close. he loves her in some way, yes, but it's okay if he doesn't feel comfortable or secure being her boyfriend anymore, for whatever reason that is. he's felt insecure too, and that's valid and it matters.

they are their own people and are steadily growing and changing every day. they need time to figure out who those people are, and it's become clear (at least in my opinion) that those people aren't meant to be a couple at this stage.

they deserve freedom. they deserve to grow up and be authentic to themselves and not feel like they need to lie for the sake of a relationship. they deserve to move on from this version of their relationship that isn't making them happy and rekindle the best part of their bond: their strong, beautiful friendship. they don't have to be a couple if it doesn't make them stronger and better and happier people.

i think it would be healthy and wonderful for a show, especially one consumed frequently by young adults, to show a relationship starting, progressing, and ending on good terms in this way. sometimes things don't work out, and that is okay.

#eve text #elmike #stranger things #byler #only tagging byler because i feel like yall will like this take lol #tagging tagging tagging WHAT ARE EVERYONE ELSE'S THOUGHTS #god i can't believe i'm making a post about stranger things. this feels like poking a bear #i'm not particularly anti m*leven but like... they'd have to do something pretty special at this point for me to feel like it's viable #i'm seeing the bts of s5 and it's got me Having Thoughts #elmike friendship is something i am so passionate about #even before i ever liked byler (didn't ship at all until s4 even though i knew it was a thing before) i've felt this way about elmike #i always believed they were close friends at heart and needed to break up #the romance part of them felt very distinctly young and very much “he was a boy she was a girl” to me #and it hasn't deepened into anything more mature and i don't see how it could based on the current state of the writing...#the fact that lumax exists — a young relationship that is actively maturing and is healthy — makes that clear to me #and the “love confession” in s4 and how disingenuous and miserable it felt was just the nail in the coffin #also the fact that will (who is IN LOVE with mike) was instrumental in making it happen? ... uh... okay... interesting choice…#fucked up and reductive if they make it another queer unrequited love sacrifice for the sake of pushing the heterosexual agenda YUCK #so i really hope the speculation about a m*leven breakup is real!! i think it just makes sense for their characters but who knows #i don't believe in the notion of love at first sight or one true love and i think the writers don't too???#love to me is an accumulation of experiences and we inevitably choose it at some point rather than fall into it... but idk #tv is so fixated on keeping couples together... sometimes it's just not reality guys especially with young people... LET IT GO...#like i said though i'm not 100% sold that they're going to give up their “golden couple” LMAO #stranger things hasn't historically subverted too many tropes if i'm being honest #anyway i seriously need this season to come out quickly... i'm so bored and getting my master's is crushing my soul #i need frivolity #ALSO btw i won't respond to hateful messages about this so please don't bother. it's not that serious. this is a netflix show

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willbyersabyss · 1 year

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El went on a whole journey to see if she’s a monster or a superhero and decided that she doesn’t want to be either and people still think the “you’re my superhero” line is something she wanted to hear. PAY ATTENTION MY GOD

There was literally an entire episode title dedicated to this and they still missed it. The monster AND the superhero. It was not the monster OR the superhero, it was and. That distinction is very important.

#el hopper #anti m*leven #byler

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starbylers · 7 months

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M*levens will say Will’s love for Mike is ‘just a crush’ or that ‘he can/will get over it’ whereas El’s love for Mike is real and true and deep, too strong for her to possibly move on from…while in the same breath try and claim Will’s words/feelings in the van also belong to El. Make it make sense 🙂 they'll say Will's feelings = El's feelings to explain why the monologue is valid even though Will was the driving force behind it, but then turn around and say Will's feelings ≠ El's feelings which is why he'll move on but El can't, and why El’s love for him is deeper and why she‘s better for him. It's a total paradox.

#byler #anti mileven #to claim El shares Will’s feelings means you're conceding that Will is also too in love with Mike to fall out of it #meaning he wouldn't get his happy ending but we know it's confirmed that he will #so Will's happy ending which is CONFIRMED logically rests on him being able to get over Mike #but if El is truly deeply in love with Mike #that means Will must be too (or M*leven’s logic for the monologue - 'those were also El feelings in the van' - falls apart)#meaning he’s not getting over Mike #or by extension ending up happy #but that’s factually incorrect so if we back it up that must mean El and Will don’t share feelings #because it’s the only scenario that allows for Will to move on and have his CONFIRMED happy ending #but hang on because them not sharing feelings means those words in the van? Those only apply to Will #meaning the monologue - a response to 'El's feelings' - is going to come crumbling down next season #do I sound crazy or do you get what I'm getting at #deductive reasoning says Byler endgame

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fynn-cl · 3 months

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I'm a Mike Wheeler empath because when I was a kid I was also gaslought into liking someone of the opposite sex while being gay

#anti milkvan #anti mileven #byler #gay mike wheeler #mike wheeler #anti melvin #anti m*leven #stranger things #byler endgame #platonic mileven

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lordystrange · 1 year

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It’s been way too long since I’ve last seen a post about this:

Season 3 promo… Noah and Finn are wearing the same clothes as they did in the interviews with Millie, so Millie was there… they could have the promo pics taken of all the ”couples”…

Season 3 itself tho… again they could have gone with all the couples together, since Mike only has eyes for Eleven… but this is probably just a coincidence again, because the Duffers never put any effort into the details right…

Season 4 promo probably has all the actual couples there right… right?

And to add one final point into our delusion here, have this: the final shot of s4

I wonder which couples are endgames…

#byler #stranger things #jancy #jopper #lumax #byler is endgame #byler canon #byler endgame #byler evidence #byler proof #stranger things s3 #stranger things s4 #stranger things s5 #anti midleven #anti m*leven #anti milkvan #byler delusion #byler tumblr

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bylershipperakaroxy · 1 year

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I made a 3th part of slander for the bylers!

I hope you enjoy!!

Btw I love doing these, so pls if u want part 4 tell me💀🙏

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your-friendly-neighbourh00d-fag · 1 year

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same ship different fonts (derogatory)

#st*ncy m*leven parallels #byler #jancy #anti mileven #anti stancy #mike wheeler #el hopper byers #nancy wheeler

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votel4dybird · 1 year

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lucas sinclair really went from "her name is eleven?!" (derogatory), to sharing his girlfriend.

character development.

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bylerisrequited · 1 year

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i giggled a little not gonna lie

#byler #anti m*leven #stranger things #hunger games #OOOOH if catching fire was on their s4 inspo i would have laughed so hard

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beefyboffybethy · 11 months

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Comparing this…

And this…

To this…

Hmm

#byler #byler endgame #anti m*leven #never have i ever #heartstopper #stranger things

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purpleshadow-star · 1 year

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I'll be honest, I'm moving out of my "mleven break up so El can be independent" phase. El already is independent. Her independence arc peaked last season. Reliving her repressed memories and finally letting go of Brenner proved that she's ready to 100% think and act for herself.

I'm moving into a "mleven break up because El uses her independent thinking to realize that her and Mike's relationship is hurting them both and making them both feel bad, so she takes initiative and breaks up with Mike for real, which starts Mike's journey to opening his eyes and realizing that their relationship wasn't good for either of them" phase.

#el independence era #but like its already begun yknow #el doesnt have to be alone to he independent #but her independence allows her to make the healthy decision for both her and mike #el hopper #mike wheeler #anti mileven #anti milkvan #anti m*leven #byler

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etherealwanderings · 3 months

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if the theory about Will having powers is real then I don't want Mike to know about it before him and Will to get together cause either way, Milkvans and the GA will say that Mike will date anyone who has powers and that for him, what matters is to be the bf of the superhero. I don't think the painting will be the only lie Will will say to Mike tbh. I personally believe that s5 will be full of byler angst especially at the beginning.

#byler #mike wheeler #anti m*leven

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shreya11111 · 1 year

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bro what is their problem😭

#byler #anti milkvan #anti m*leven #anti midleven #will byers #milkvan #m*leven #anti mileven #st4

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cluelessbees · 11 months

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Okay but the fact that El says “You were right. It just takes time.” Makes me think she tried to open up to him about feeling different and he didn’t really give her the answer she wanted/needed.

Like- he gave her a generic response that doesn’t really help her overcome her own insecurities yknow? I don’t think he did it intentionally ofc but this probably made her shut down a bit with him and make her feel uncomfortable talking to him about it.

It just goes to show how they don’t really get each other.

#anti m*leven #anti milkvan #byler #<- target audience #Not byler related #but this completely juxtapose how Mike and will get each other and know how to comfort one another

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