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taffybuns · 1 year

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wtf movie of the century

#knives out #glass onion #benoit blanc #miles bron #andi brand #helen brand #claire debella #lionel toussant #whiskey #duke cody #birdie jay #soupdraws

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lady-griffin · 1 year

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Small Parallel I love with Knives Out and Glass Onion

Neither Harlan Thrombey nor Andi Brand are good people. They’re not. They’re also not evil people to be clear, but again, they’re not really good people.

By the kind of people his family and especially his children are, we get a sense of who Harlan is or largely was in his life, especially with the comment that there is so much of him in Ransom.

Andi was also clearly more than okay with both Birdie and Duke as not just acquaintances but close friends; as well as what other nonsense came out of Miles before “Klear,” and she was his business partner and friend.

She wasn’t some moral beacon of wholesomeness.

Her standard of good was –

Let’s not put this very dangerous and unstable thing that hasn’t even come close to being properly tested out into the world, especially not under our company’s name; because we are not some daring startup company anymore, we’re an established conglomerate and this could easily sink us.

That’s not exactly a high bar of morality.

And that’s okay.

Really it is.

I like how neither movie truly idolizes Harlan or Andi to the point they are made out to be truly good people, BUT yet, we still see why Marta and Helen clearly loved and cared about these two and why their deaths matter.

Marta and Helen are our truly good souls for these movies.

The two main groups of people - The Thrombeys and The Disruptors - are all various shades of the same kind of bad person for each movie.

The Thrombeys are all willing to live off Harlan’s hard work and they all believe they are entitled to his fortune because it’s their family right. It’s theirs. And once you peel back the layers of liberal or conservative, they’re all the same, because they’re all a bit more than willing to defend what they think is theirs, with knives out and teeth bared.

The Disruptors are somehow even more reliant on Miles than the Thrombeys were on Harlan (which is saying something); and they will cling onto him until they see his boat is doomed to sink. They literally know he killed two people; two of their so-called “friends” and they’re not willing to do anything. At least, not until Miles is truly fucked.

They all care more about their own survival and ambitions than doing the right thing. And once more, when you peel back the layers of liberal or conservative, we once again see they’re all the same, they’re all more than willing to lie for a lie and stab a “friend” in the back.

But Harlan and Andi are our mixed bags of morality.

This is clear enough with the two types of people they are associated with.

The Thrombey Family and Marta.

The Disruptors and Helen.

They’re kind of like an optical illusion, it really depends on how you look at them and what you see when it comes to their own morality.

However, they do have two traits that I think redeem them for the audience, or at the very least make them more admirable to us.

They are genuinely self-made people.

Harlan was a brilliant murder mystery writer. He was. And he did build this publishing/franchise empire of his.

Andi was a brilliant mind who dabbled in many different things, but her real talent (as I saw it) was being able to spot a certain something-something in people. She saw the doers in the world, even when they weren’t quite there yet, she saw their potential to be the kind of person who others would notice and remember.

They were also both willing to stand by their values and once they made a decision, they would not be bullied into changing it.

Harlan decided to cut off his family and was sticking by that.

Andi decided to walk away from Miles and was sticking by that.

And I don’t know, I just like that little bit of extra moral complexity these two characters bring to these movies.

Oh, and Benoit Blanc is a good person, but he definitely isn’t governed by what the law or society says is good. He’s an eccentric who’s here for a good time, a fun and challenging mystery, and is more than willing to help out the good souls in the world when he gets the opportunity.

#Knives Out #Glass Onion #Glass Onion Spoilers #harlan thrombey #Andi Brand #Marta Cabrera #Helen Brand #Benoit Blanc #Rian Johnson

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bookofbonbon · 1 year

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my favourite part about watching Glass Onion with my niece (6) was when ‘the disruptors’ were solving the puzzle box together and her exasperated little voice going I would just smash it only for Helen to do exactly that just moments later.

#the look of pure joy on her face #she fell asleep like 5 minutes after that #little kids are funny #knives out #knives out: glass onion #glass onion #the disruptors #beniot blanc #miles bron #helen brand #cassandra brand #andi brand

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dingustripas · 1 year

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I just finished watching Glass Onion for the third time so now you get to hear my rant about it but the details are out of order in the timeline because I’m lazy

(SPOILERS AHEAD)

When Miles lifts the gun off of Duke, we can actually see it pre-Blanc explaining it. The scene where the two hug you can see Miles take the gun and slip it into the back of his jeans.

Following the gun thing, we, the viewers actually SEE the gun itself (pre-Blanc’s explanation) when Miles goes back to the mini bar to put it in the ice bucket. Although it’s kind of hard to see it’s very clearly a gun but our eyes manipulate our minds into thinking it’s a drink because it is indeed a minibar.

They show how Miles places the drink in Dukes hand pre Blanc’s explanation but quickly distract us with the groups dynamic and Birdie.

Phillip is skeptical of Helen when she asks for Blanc, we can assume that he and Blanc have had negative run ins with people from jobs. Also Phillip might be judging Helen’s character, who she is, because he doesn’t want to put Blanc into a situation where he’s in true danger. He’s a detective not Batman.

Birdies mask at the beginning of the movie at the boat is just fucking chains across her face in diamond pattern.

Blanc doesn’t have a gag reflex when the dude in the white suit puts Miles “covid vax” down his throat. (Bc he’s 🏳️‍🌈)

Andi, when she first comes up with the idea for Alpha and starts working with Miles, is wearing dark colors. The dark blue pinstripe suit, her completely black ensamble when we see her at the Glass Onion (the bar). But when she’s challenging Miles she’s wearing both Black and white. At the trial she’s wearing a light almost off white suit. Why is this important? Because what color is Helen wearing when she shuts miles down? White. The color white is, in itself, a color that symbolizes Miles downfall.

Connecting back to the white idea, Whiskey is wearing all white (her bathing suit) when she reveals crucial information about Miles giving her the Taurus necklace for her birthday. (Which leads to his downfall when Blanc puts 2+2 together that he killed Andi)

“Im really bad at dumb things” -Blanc. The reason he didn’t catch on to what was going on with Miles earlier was because Miles is stupid. Miles is so dumb that he fucking befuddled Blanc because Miles is so stupid.

Blanc isn’t uncomfortable about his arousal around Birdie when she put her legs up on him while Miles talks about being ‘Disrupters’. He’s uncomfortable because he’s GAY and has a BOYFRIEND/HUSBAND.

There’s a bunch of owls and small trinkets of birds in Birdies room.

The movie, at the very beginning, with Miles mystery invitation box thing hints at where the envelope is hidden. The fibonacci sequence on the box has the center blocked out in black, where we will later see in the film is red which is where Miles is hiding the envelope. For fucks sake the movie even goes out of its way, with Dukes mother, to point out the sequence. (“The first one’s a fibonacci sequence” -Dukes mom).

During the dinner Whiskey is wearing the same golden chain body jewelry that Birdie was wearing earlier at the pool. So this could mean two things: 1. They have the same chain and 2. Whiskey borrowed the chain from Birdie.

Now connecting to my first point about the chain jewelry above. The reason why Miles likes Whiskey, despite her sleeping with him for the sake of Dukes channel, is because Whiskey reminds him of younger Birdie. Birdie even talks to Peg about how dazzled and amazed Miles was when he first met her and how she wishes it was like that again. Then when they’re smashing the glass sculptures, the first thing Whiskey smashes is a sculpture of a bird. Hence smashing Miles perception of her as another person he can use like he used Birdie.

“You have him turn around so he can have deniability” -Aaron Burr in Hamilton (Basically what Blanc was thinking when he walked out of the room)

When Blanc is trying to light his cigar in the “Smokeless garden” the reason the alarms go off is because because just the smoke and small flames from Blanc’s cigar could cause “another Hindenburg”.

The ending scene with Helen and Blanc after Blanc asks her if she’s ready to go home, Helen’s sitting stance mimics the Mona Lisa. Miles said “It all started with her” in reference to his success being inspired by the Mona Lisa. But it all ended with Helen and her stance at the end mimicking the Mona Lisa is meant to represent that. The beginning and end of Miles Bron.

Blanc refers to alchol as offering Helen “some courage”. Ofc as we all know alcohol is commonly referred to as “Liquid Courage”.

We should’ve known Miles was the killer for this simple reason: The glass he handed to Duke. Duke dying holding Miles’s glass is literally like a signed note. Duke died with Miles name literally written on the crime scene.

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aparticularbandit · 1 year

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when andi said her life was taken away from her by someone, everyone in that room - and then emphasized it - my life! do you even know what that means? - and you come back and realize it’s helen saying that and she means it literally because andi is dead.

#musings #glass onion #glass onion spoilers #andi brand #helen brand #glass onion fam #bandit sees glass onion #bandit liveblogs #i also want to talk about the first two puzzles in the puzzle box #but #this one is important to so up it goes

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cityelf · 1 year

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The girrrrrrlllllsss are SNOOPING ✨️

#glass onion #glass onion: a knives out mystery #knives out #benoit blanc #andi brand #attempts #daniel craig #janelle monae

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fandomsandfeminism · 1 year

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Ok, ok, but can we talk about *Cassandra* and *Helen* Brand?

Cassandra- the one who can see danger in the future, but is never believed, and is killed in the conflict to bring down Troy.

Helen- the woman who watches this city that isnt hers burn to the ground and gets to return home. how interesting that she's the one using deception to sneak the enemy into the walls this time. How interesting that she's the one who sets the fire this time. That it is her actions that brings the armada of Greek police boats (ships) to the shore.

#knives out #glass onion #cassandra brand #andi brand #helen brand #glass onion spoilers

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jbk405 · 1 year

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One thing I have to point out and praise to high-heavens is the energy that Janelle Monae brought to her role in Glass Onion.

Every single time that she walked on-screen in the first half of the film (Before the various reveals) the entire energy of the scene changed. When we-the-audience still don’t know what’s going on, we can tell that something is going on because she just radiates. It’s part malice, part rage, part resentment, and part driving, burning will.

When you see her you know that she knows more than you, and that she is going to drive what she knows right through your skull.

I make absolutely no claim to having figured out the twists before the reveal, they had me good and snookered, but every single time I saw her I knew that something was coming. You could tell.

#Glass Onion: A Knives Out Mystery #Glass Onion #Janelle Monae #Helen Brand #Andi Brand

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sinematically · 1 year

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made this post for sapphic reasons

Edit: assume this post says “working class/woman who destroys the rich”, and not WOC ‘cause I got it wrong. Ana de Armas is not a WOC — she’s Caucasian and of Spanish/Cuban descent which is her ethnicity.

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a-door-to-somewhere · 1 year

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Rewatched glass onion, here's some more things I liked that I picked up on the second time around

- Helen's face as she destroys the box- it's not the calm coolness we see from 'andi' it's grief

- peg's already putting put fires in the box opening scene

- the invitation has an evil eye on it, symbolizing jealousy, ill wishing (which killed andi)

- birdie claims she says what everyone's thinking but doesn't want to say. On the boat, she tells 'andi' (helen) "nobody wants you here," but miles greets andi with a "I'm so glad you came."

- andi could've just taken a picture of the napkin itself as evidence. But she deliberately sent the proof to only the Shitheads, instead of just to the courts. In that scene, a picture of an ourobouros is behind her, symbolizing the cycle of manipulation, blackmail, and games between the rich bitches

- we all get to see what the Shitheads look like while they lie in the court scene (Claire stutters, avoids eye contact, Birdie is too casual, Lionel is too quiet, etc.) And they're all terrible at it. The lot of them really didn't straight up lie at all- the most they did was lie by omission, until it came to flat put deny visual evidence for miles.

- miles gets all squirrely when Benoit asks why his car is 'here,' because he'd just been driving it around on another continent to kill andi and such- so it's not one of a kind, either

- miles makes a dumbass comment to whiskey about the necklace he gave her

- while there certainly is a chekhov's smoking napkin, the random guy, Derol, was actually just a random guy

#glass onion #knives out spoilers #knives out #glass onion spoilers #movie details #birdie jay #benoit blanc #miles bron #lionel toussaint #claire debella #peg glass onion #cassandra brand #andi brand #helen brand #a door opens up

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janknabobfdi · 11 months

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Can we just talk about how different the killers' plans were between the two movies

Ransom used a secret passage way only Harlan knows about to switch the medication to get Marta's inheritance nullified by the slayer rule. With the only evidence pointing to him being a few dog barks and a senile grandma.

If Marta didn't give Harlan the right medications by touch she wouldn't even KNOW that she killed someone, the toxicology report would notice a morphine overdose and she gets arrested for medical negligence.

Despite Marta actually giving Harlan the right medications and being witnessed the Fran, He manages to improvise his way into silencing Fran and framing Marta for her murder.

Literally the only reason why his plan didn't work was because he underestimated Marta's competency as a nurse.

Meanwhile Miles drove his SIGNATURE CAR on his way to kill Andi, Gave Duke his glass IN PLAIN SIGHT in front of everyone and lied about being the target despite the fact that toxicology reports will say that Duke had PINEAPPLE JUICE instead of poison. WHEN MILES ISN'T ALLERGIC TO PINEAPPLE JUICE.

#knives out #glass onion #benoit blanc #marta cabrera #ransom drysdale #harlan thrombey #miles bron #andi brand #duke cody

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saving-stark · 1 year

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You know, this scene is so much more visceral watching it the second time round, cause this time, you know it’s literal

#andi brand #glass onion #knives out #janelle monae #Helen brand #Benoit blanc #the glass onion #miles bron #Daniel craig

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they-callme-ami · 1 year

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Knives Out and Glass Onion obviously are great for a multitude of reasons, but I enjoy how at the center, the REAL victims and those who got justice for the people wronged in the end were WOC and I want to see more of that if/when more sequels come out.

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dingustripas · 1 year

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Let Daniel Craig kiss Hugh Grant in the next Knives out Movie, pretty please. Let Phillip call Blanc “My darling” or “My dear” and let Blanc call Phillip “My sweetheart” or “my good husband”.

(TLDR: Let Phillip and Blanc be gay together, thanks)

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hatchetfield-scarecrow · 1 year

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Do you guys think Miles remembered Andi had a twin sister and figured out she was Helen after the shock wore off, or do you think he thought he just did a shitty murder job and Andi had come to fuck with him up until Blanc’s speech reveal?

#he is an idiot remember #glass onion #glass onion a knives out mystery #knives out #benoit blanc #helen brand #miles bron #andi brand #glass onion spoilers

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foeofcolor · 1 year

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Cassandra, the one who told the truth but no one believed and Helen, the face that launched a thousand ships.

No one believed Andi at the trial, no one believed her when she put it out in the open the Claire was lying. In the end, the ships were launched and came to Miles’ island because Helen burnt it all down.

#glass onion #ko2 go #knives out #knives out 2 #helen brand #cassandra brand #andi brand #janelle monae #personal shit tm

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