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#and i dont give a fuck that louis is doing this show i really don't like good for him i hope the people who go enjoy themselves
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i do feel bad for stede re: his kids cause like the show does show him trying to have fun and bond with them, talking about the horse having kind eyes (which mary kind of gives him a dirty look about), and playing pirates with them. like. i dunno im not trying to blame mary but i think it's unfair that he tried to be a fun and sensitive dad the way he wanted a dad to be and in return he seemed to kinda just get like. disinterest and scathing looks in return. alma gives him the olive branch later with the orange but like.
he obviously had a cruel and unkind dad and i don't think stede was a bad father and i dont say this to blame mary but i do get the impression that mary wouldn't really let stede interact with his kids in a way that they all enjoyed? i gotta rewatch season 1 but i feel like i remember a bit where she tells him not to play pirates with the kids but then alma comes and sort of pokes him into doing so. idk it makes me Sad he clearly tried to be the dad he didn't have
and his kids don't seem to HATE him they just seem confused. and yeah its shit to run out on them, but i think he shows remarkable awareness of like. 'i probably fucked up my kids. both by being a pathetic dad and leaving them' but i dont think he was pathetic!! i dont think so i think he didn't want to make his kids feel like shit the way his dad made him feel, and i think alma and louis giving him the orange is evidence that no, they don't hate him, they do care about him. he just didn't fit into the world that they are a part of and had a clear place in, and i don't think he messed them up as much as he thinks he did.
i would love to see alma or louis again in season 3 like especially alma maybe being a little runaway like her dad idk i just.
i just don't think he was a bad father, it's evident with the way he treats the crew (his kids!!) and how he tried with his actual kids.
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enigmaticdiary · 1 month
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i am rewatching episode 1 for rewind the tape :) I've seen the pilot probably around 20 times at this point but I've only watched it by myself.... once! so for the first time since my first time watching it alone, im gonna do it again with a head full of knowledge of the iwtv book and the full season. and im turning off captions so it's less reading and more watching and close observing for me >:D
Below is a liveblog!
WARNING: I FUCKING LOVE TO TALK AND POINT OUT USELESS THINGS ON EVERY SINGLE THING I SEE. THIS POST IS GOING TO BE A MILE LONG. Also im still not great at putting my thoughts together.
hmm. I would read molloys book on kaposi sarcoma and hiv/aids. i love how well the fake book covers and this advert are put together because so many times I've been asked by friends who i showed the show to if it was an actual commercial LOL.
THE PIC ON THE BACK OF THE BOOK GOING FROM LUKE TO JUST AN ACTUAL PICTURE OF YOUNG ERIC BOGOSIAN? LMFAO. The casting is genuinely so perfect in this show. hehe i like how well the passage of time is depicted through the book covers too, not just in. the photos for daniel obviously but for the aesthetic styles of the covers. the cover they made for "the internets gavel" is sooo mid 2000s. I love the attention to detail for these things on screen for less than a second because it gives a fool like me something to look at and praise simply because the detail wasn't overlooked.
"hate and ashbury" man this is such a good title too. simply because im looking at it and sifting out details it's such a good way to get even more insight into molloy's character. while I don't need to get into a history lecture of haight-ashbury, it tells a lot because it was a historically hippie neighborhood in the 1960s and the birthplace of the counterculture movement, it says a lot for molloy especially seeing the previous three fictional books he wrote about, being hiv/aids crisis, the politics of climate change in the United states, the governments attempts at putting stricter regulation on the internet... I could get into how this connects with molloy's character more in relation to his desire for vampirism but i am barely over a minute in and I've been typing for 15 minutes now!!!
"Preparing For An Interview" NO WAY. GUYS!
No no no i will not pause every 10 seconds and try to connect the thematic dots of everything being presented to me. I need to save that for the video essay im writing!
louis' beautiful handwriting❤️
i dont know why daniels scrunched up face is so fucking funny to me.
Jesus okay watching this without captions is actually really difficult for me i see why i need them all at all times. If im not rewinding because i keep fucking pausing im rewinding because I didn't understand a fucking word i just heard. Despite seeing the episode 20 times.
Hmm.. What personally redemptive accomplishments could louis be referring to..?
UUGGGHHHHHHJJJJJJJJHHHHHHHHHHHHHFHHHH sorry Louis on screen and i started tearing up. Hello armand goodbye armand.
Yah.
Do you think louis goes on twitter sometimes.
Yah?
COVID MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! COVID MEDIA!!!!!!!!!!!
Louis has changed... The only big change he's mentioned between Interview 1 and now that I can recall off the top of my head is that he stopped killing in 2000. I wonder why? I wonder many things
Truth and reconciliation....
Armand being concerned with daniels editor seeing/hearing what was said. I am vaguely aware of the theory that armand has possibly been up to mindfuckery with both louis and Daniel and i can only wonder if this has been mentioned to buoy that theory. To control the narrative.? Hmm... but why?
I know Daniel was annoyed by louis calling him "boy" but i think it's kind of cute. Even with nearly 50 years passing by, the old human is still young to the vampire who has lived going on twice his lifetimes. I am not 10 minutes in and I have been typing for 40 minutes!
FUUUUUUCK sorry. louis
I have no commentary on louis introducing. LESTAT. sorry, not him. On louis introducing new orleans and his the place he inhabited in it. I think its pretty self explanatory and explicit, yeah?
BRICKS❤️❤️❤️❤️
Oh my god the fucking "Oh—goddamn." upon seeing fenwicks diarrhea dick is Ao fucking funny. Louis acting like he would actually have a problem seein a dick or too. Probably would have a problem seeing fenwicks tho (unshitted on). I don't disagree there. Maybe the poop camo is for the best....
Yiu can't be saying that racist jake the dog
Id stick my finger in fenwicks wound and see how deep itd go.
Hi paul
The lord told me to cum. Sorry im 5 years old
Paul punching louis is genuinely so fucking. LESTAT AND HIS FUCKING GOOFY ASS HAT OH MY GOD!!. Sorry. Paul punching Louis was so fucking funny to me because I know that if they were not on that street and were at home or something they would be SLUGGING each other until grace has to pull them apart. Then hug it out :) Idk is this how siblings work im pretty much an only child
I keep having to google words help. HELP. NOT ME HAVING LOOKED UP "PULPIT" ALREADY AND APPARENTLY COMPLETELY FORGETTING WHAT IT MEANS.
Immediately another word I have to google. Im not gonna say I'm stupid for not knowing these words, i did not grow up with the church as closely as others...
i do think a lot about the pointe du lac household before their father died. like. A lot. Theres so much in that brief interaction mentioning him. The sugar cane, the hospital, the Diversion.
Ill never forget the first time i rewatched this ep After learning about the mayfair witches and seeing this scene and being like: GASP! OH MY GOD! ANNE RICE REFERENCE! IT'S ALL CONNECTED!
Paul is so fucking funny like the shade he's constantly throwing, please take a break LMFAO
hng. (louis)
Googling words again. Hmmm the internalized homophobia yes yes i see. Sorry need to google another fucking word. Oh. oh louis...... Ok I can see how my mom picked up on louis being gay so fast. I am a smart boy but my vocabulary is pathetically limited so "big" words going over my head made what should've been pretty obvious be absolutely indecipherable to me. Sorry for being stupid (im not)
I am 17 minutes in and I have been watching and typing for an hour!
Louis: everyone in here is white so its easy to pick out who's gonna call me a nigger to my face and whos gonna do it behind my back
Sir..... Mister....
Hes here
Microaggression 1
TWO.
THREE.
FOUR?
LESTAT CONTINUOUSLY HITTING ME OVER THE HEAD WITH BRICKS
His hair looks like shit
IM. GOING TO KILL HIM. Dont worry louis get behind me.
YOU GONNA FALL VICTIM TO THIS MAN WHOSE HAIR GOT CAUGHT UNDER THE IRON?
Oh my god Leswirl de lioncourt PLEASE PLEASE I CANT TAKE THIS. Actually started growling out loud and said "Shut rhr fuck up, oh mt God.!!!"
IVE EMPTIED A BANK VAULT SAMPLING. S. AJSHKSKSJZMSMS PLEASE SHUT THE FUCK UP OH MY GKD. PLEASW. ISNSSMJAKSNSMSJAJZMSUAUBZNZ
Lestat put your ears away, please.
Me, watching this for the first time at the age of 20: Is this gay...? No... it can't be. They would put gay in a show...? For real? (in denial and scared of being queerbaited despite the most explicit homosexual overtext)
MISS CARROLL THEYRE HAVING A DICK MEASURING COMPETITION.!!!!!!!
Unfortunately lestat did kind of serve there but throwing his dick down on the table embarrassing louis like that in front of miss carroll and lily was evil and racist somehow And he should be sentenced to 40 good slams in thr head with a brick
If paul didn't punch louis none of this would be happening
Lestat: God i love to troll
Who the devil you say.? Well...
Oh lord louis' face card sorry didn't mean to moan like that. I saw a maj so beautiful I threw up evrrywhere
Hmm. The racism
FUUUUUUCK LOUIS IS SO CUTE I NEED TO KILL MYSELF!
Lestat needs to put his ears AWAY he looks so bad with his hair that short.
What IS this insane time freezing trick lestat is doing? God when im actually giving myself a chance to really absorb myself in the show that scene is actually pretty fucking scary LOL
I NEED TO DIE I HATE HOW MUCH I LOVE THEM. CAN SOMEONE PLEASE SHIOT ME IN THE FUCKING HEADA
Lord have mercy the sheer SEX in his eyes as he looks at louis' neck. I nedd to die
Paul..... I need to kill myself for emotional reasons not related to loustat
Egypt reference! Wow! Gabrielle allusion ! "The means to make my way to paris" Ok well what if i
I FEEL SO FUCKING BAD AT HOW HARD I LAUGH AT PAULS SCENES. steven norfleet does such an amazing job in this role.
SAVAGE GARDEN!!!!!!! GUYS!!!!! B
Hooray! The scene that changed me literally Forever. Whatever, man.
Ykung violinist
lily and lestat circling louis like two lions descending on a zebra.
I had a dream about this scene once. I will not br elaborating.
Dude.
GUYS. SEX IS SO FUCKING AWESOME!!!
Guys.
God thid is so fucking crazy
Unfortunately this part does make me giggle especially having to see these two men floating naked and seeing sams fat ass Im about to start crying again
I wish vampires were real
Insert joe biden yelling faggot I don't have it on hand and i don't want to pause for 20 minutes to find it
MY FAVORITE SCENE EVERRRRRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! PAUL AND LOUIS TAPDSNCING SO CUTE AARRRGGHHHHHHHHHHH!!! The fact that thus scenr eas really all them, being jacob and steven, its so awesome.
WHEN THE BLACK JOY! And then thr Black suffering. Ok guys 21st time is a charm Im praying really hard I THINK I CAN STOP PAUL FROM JUMPING THIS TIME!
This is one of those scenes that really seperates black viewers from nonblack viewers because the way some of my nonblack friends have reacted to florence blaming louis has made me so insanely embarrassed.... I don't know how to explain it. But the shame from a black parent... especially the mother. I don't know. It breaks you in a different way than anything else. Theres a lot of nuance I want to say but I don't have the time or brainpower or expertise to word it properly so please just take my emotional response to this scene at face value.
sorry but lestat just openly asking during the funeral service where they got pauls coffin from is CRAZY.
Breaking finns arm was also crazy as fuck. Like would hs have done that if louis didn't get angry as fuck at him just then. Unfortunately knowing lestats character now seeing louis get mad like that probably made him hard as fuck and thr only way he can deal with it in the moment is to break that mans arm. Sorry I love how ar the beginning of this post i was like super into the nitty gritty and the details bjt then it just turned into me making fun of lestat and how hard he definitely was in like every single scene he was in
God. the pain.
Killing lily was in fact extremely racist and misogynistic of lestat. He should be stabbed many times for this
God.
Ok scene two that permanently changed me
Sorry to that poor stunt double that got knocked out then.
What rage you must feel as you choke on your sorrow. Unfortunately one of the hardest lines ever
No commentary. Hard to say things about this scene cause its just so good, man.
Oh my poor ashy grey blood deprived louis
Watching this scene with headphones on is crazy
GOD. GUYS. I LOVE SHOW. DID YOU GUYS KNOW I FUCKING LOVE SHOW???!!?? Pack it up guys This is one of the best pilots in tv history
To wrap up this post, it took me about 2 hours and 20 minutes to finish the first episode. I spent twice as long watching it BECAUSE I LOVE TO FUCKING YAP!
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saintarmand · 4 months
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IWTV Ask Game
2. How did you find out about or discover it?
i'd seen the movie before and when the trailer came out i thought it looked really good so it was on my radar before it came out. but the reason i actually started watching was that i was disappointed in house of the dragon bc daemon and rhaenyra weren't a toxic enough couple when they actually got together and i wanted to watch some toxic romance. lol
ok long version of the story! (sorry if you don't care about hotd lol)
i was really excited about hotd after the trailers started coming out and like the freak i am, i was especially excited to see the insane uncle/niece incest grooming go from gross to fun when they eventually marry and fight a war and everything goes wrong and they're both crazy and toxic and evil. that's my idea of a good time. this shot from the trailer in particular had me excited for this dynamic:
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and the beginning was so promising, their scenes when she's still a teenager played by the younger actress milly alcock are very intriguing! creepy but intriguing.
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but then episode 7 happens. i knew ahead of time that the plot of the episode was that daemon's wife has just died and at her funeral he fucks his niece, as you do, and then suddenly rhaenyra's husband also dies and they get married for succession war reasons without permission from her father the king who would fucking hate this. insane sequence of events! and i'd heard that the marriage ceremony was going to be valyrian rites with blood and stuff. for the uninitiated, valyrian refers to the (mostly) lost civilization of blond people who ride dragons and do incest and they're rumored to have done blood magic and stuff. so i had high hopes for this whole valyrian marriage rites scene. a blood sacrifice? some animal or...? an altar with LOTS of blood! their dragons take to the air! they should fuck on the bloody altar while their dragons fuck in the air! either way the visuals will be insane and amazing!
yeah, so the episode airs. and i'm BORED. they made this shit boring somehow. the dialogue is bad and so is the directing. they have a bland conversation about their respective marriages and then have some tepid sex. it just doesn't look like they're that into it even. was that intentional? i cant tell. other more interesting stuff happens and then close to the end of the ep shes like uncle i need you so i can win the eventual war that everyone knows is going to be break out so we should get married. hes like hmm ok. but shes already married so they fake her husband's death so he can sail into the sunset with his boyfriend. toxicity and evilness toned down as much as possible. then they marry and the valyrian ritual is just like. fine. no dragons. they cut their palms so there is blood. if i saw it without prior expectations i'd probably think it was kinda cool but i had built it up in my head to be way cooler so.
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in the next episode they kinda just act like a normal couple. despite the whole incest age gap uncle niece grooming shit. i wanted them to be screaming. i am sad about it.
im on tumblr and i see a post with a jacob anderson quote saying iwtv is basically a show about a married couple slamming doors on each other. i'd seen some gifs and ofc i'd seen the trailer months ago but this makes me go !!!!! THIS could be the toxic marriage i was looking for! i go watch it immediately. two episodes have aired so far but it only took me one to fall in love! new obsession unlocked! louis de pointe du lac is my truest love!
at that point im barely able to give half a shit about hotd anymore, i dont even watch the last two eps until days or weeks later. (in the last episode daemon and rhaenyra do get more interesting as they have some tension over him acting like he's in charge even though she's the queen and he's just her consort. he also strangles her a bit when he gets upset, which is very unsurprising from a misogynistic violent man who murdered his first wife (of 3) but some people were shocked. insert iwtv comparison here.) (i've also rewatched hotd with new eyes recently and enjoyed those episodes a lot more when i didnt have my own expectations clouding everything. i WOULD recommend the show for anyone who thinks family drama leading to a literal war feat. dragons sounds like a fun time. it is good and hopefully will be continue to be! also that quote from the showrunner saying daemon wanted to marry his brother and his niece was the closest he could get to was fucking life changing. ryan condal said gay targcest rights. also rhaenicent<3)
anyway iwtv becomes my #1 obsession from episode one and has stayed that way ever since!
iwtv ask game (sorry for mostly talking about a whole different show here lmao)
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Hii just read all about your harry concerts and sounds like you had an amazing time!! so happy for you :)) I was there for n2 but super far away and i was just wondering how you camp?? I've never done it before and it sounded kinda crazy to me but you get so close and I just think it makes it that much more special. My view of harry was a tiny little speck of a human dancing around unless I watched the big screen so I'd love to get the chance to be so close to him in future. But have no idea how you go about camping for a concert. Like where do you put your stuff when you have to pack it away? Where do you pitch the tent? is it always allowed? I dont have a clue! I also don't know if this is a really stupid ask but I've tried looking into it and can never really get a clear answer. You seem like a very knowledgeable person so thought I'd ask in case you have any advice
Anyway, so glad you had such a good time! I was crying at points too and half in shock I got to be there at all :))
heeey!!! okay so about camping, all i can say is that it's different for every show in terms of where you put your tent and whether or not it's allowed (it usually isn't, but yeah). i can def give you some tips tho!!
cut bc i've put enough long(ish) posts on the dash today
we went to the queue a day in advance, usually. the longest i spent in a queue (apart from now for n2 but i don't really count it since we were camping for n1 first) was 36hrs, so one night out there. you just go to the venue and usually there are fans already there, organising the queue. you check in with them and get your number, then they give you an explanation as to how the queue will work (about leaving the queue, etc). this was the first time i used tents, but we just pitched them right then and there, in the queue, so as to 'keep our spot'. wembley was clearly prepared, so we were all camping on the slopes to the entrances! after the night, we packed everything up again and had the luxury of putting it all in a friend's car, but other times we've also used lockers that were in a nearby mall, for example. we didn't book any hotel or hostel this time, so we took a day membership at a nearby gym to shower and change. other times we did book hostels to spend parts of the night there (f.e. in berlin or amsterdam we slept in shifts at the hostel and in the queue).
i think it's essential, when you camp, that you make sure you're comfortable. don't tire yourself out, because you still need to enjoy that concert!! we camped through some pretty gruelling settings (like snow......) and at some points i definitely questioned my life choices. this time, tho, we had fucking air mattresses. we were a group of four, so we all put our heads together and brought the supplies we needed. but if you're alone, you'll always make friends in the queue!! something like that brings ppl together yk ksjhfkjhfr
so, in any case: just go to the venue. check it out, a day (or two) in advance, and inspect what the queue is like and how they're going about camping. sometimes tents aren't allowed, sometimes sleeping simply isn't allowed (so that's when you go sleep in shifts at a hostel/...), sometimes the queue is a downright mess. i've had a lot of luck so far, so i can tell you that 5/5 camping experiences achieved their goal. (bc i've heard some accounts where venue security just shooed the queue away and then it was hell, so i luckily haven't experienced that before).
i also did some shows without any camping and still had a fucking amazing time, so if it's not worth it, then it still won't lessen your experience!!! i'm so glad you had a great time at wembley too :')
and then i also want to add, just for absolute clarity, that i had barricade for hslot bc we paid for early entrance, ofc :)) shows like harry's just work like that now...... you gotta pay if you want to be front row. it is what it is. i'm broke af now and it was worth every cent, but it's nice to know that for a louis show f.e. it's a matter of showing up, from then on it's a fair 'fight' for barricade lmao that's a joke pls don't fucking fight for a queue spot literally....... not worth it. tpwk
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non-binharry · 3 years
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How is this Louis festival any different from H’s tour plans? Yet I see many people who pretty much ’cancelled’ Harry a week ago, being all excited and going ’well it’s outdoors and free etc etc’ now. I’m sorry but really?
you know, i'm actually going to take this moment to break this down because i feel like people really don't understand the double standard:
the two situations are not comparable. we can acknowledge and admit that. louis is doing a one day festival vs harry doing a two month tour across the US. those are obviously not the same thing at all. but we see time and time again how people perceive the motivation behind harry and louis' actions are completely different.
people were begging for updates on tour and saying over and over "harry is for sure postponing tour, there's no way he's going on tour rn with the delta variant spreading" and then when we find out that plans were different, it was super spreader this, harry is greedy that, as though changing plans for a world tour are a decision that happens overnight and not something that takes time and careful consideration, especially in the middle of a pandemic.
there's no performing at half capacity for shows that have been sold out for over a year. y'all want him to make a two month tour go for four? there's no outdoor venues for places where venues are booked or few and far between. the idea that, if harry were to do something different to accommodate for an ever changing pandemic when just two months ago things were drastically improving in the US, people wouldn't still behave exactly as they have or be satisfied enough by his efforts is just not working for me.
like y'all just need to be transparent. i see y'all reblogging gifs and videos and photos of megan the stallion performing at lives shows (where mfs got sick) and not acknowledging a damn thing because you only choose to make a problem out of something when you want to.
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imthebadguyyy · 3 years
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maybe something like interviewer asking her sexist questions and the boys stand up for her , after that interview she feels insecure and the boys comfort her . that's just an idea you don't have to write it !! <33
I hope you like it, and I'm so sorry about the delay 😭 I couldn't find my footing with this one, and I hope it's what you wanted ! Have a lovely day 💙
The One Where They're There For Her
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Pairing - One Direction x Reader (6thmember!female!reader)
Fandom - One Direction (Directioners)
Summary - A particularly sexist interview decides to reduce you to just a sexual being and makes no effort to hide his misogyny. But the boys are there to support you.
Warnings - sexualization of the lgbt community, sexist comments, swearing, (honestly I hated myself for writing some of the comments here,and I'm so sorry)
Being a part of the biggest band in the world comes with certain responsibilities. Not responsibilities that come along with signing a recording contract, but those that a person deems themselves responsible for. For example, as the only female in a boyband, a female with a fanbase as large as yours, you took it upon yourself to always stand up for what's right, and to be an ally for the causes close to your heart.
That meant that your social media was often flooded with information about important causes, or your opinions on issues like feminism. Was it always well received? Heck no. There were people filled your feed with hate and comments calling you the most horrible names and labelling you a 'man hater' and a 'bitch' But you didn't let it get to you. On most days. On days like today, it was all you could do to keep it together. It had been a tiring few days, touring, recording, performing and doing an endless amount of interviews and photoshoots. It was safe to say you were on the last of your nerves, having battled your way through a makeup artist who had insisted on pointing out your flaws and had used a shit ton of makeup to cover them up. You had battled a photographer who had not hesitated to tell you that if you didn't look more feminine people would think you were turning into a man.
Before you could retaliate, Paul had dragged him away and told management to cancel the photoshoot, and find another photographer before grabbing the six of you some sandwiches and had let you all go back for a quick power nap at the hotel. Then in about half an hour he had woken you up, to get you ready for another interview. That's how you were here, in a white jumpsuit and a black blazer jacket, paired with black heels. Another day, another interviewer that got on your nerves. But this one, this one was different. This interviewer was different, but also the same. Another misogynistic man who thought he was entitled to stare at your ass and cleavage, and eye fuck you as you settled into a seat in between Niall and Zayn.
Settling in, you crossed one knee over the other, plastering a fake smile onto your face, as the man leaned back in his chair, throwing you a sleazy smirk. Noticing the look, Zayn shifted so you were out of view of the interviewer, but in view of the audience. It was in moments like this that you were a 100× more grateful to have your boys. They were well aware of how sleazy some interviewers could be, having had plenty of experience with them, and Zayn and Louis in particular were very protective about the way you were treated. Squeezing your thigh softly, he leaned back a little, lips settling into a thin line as he looked at the interviewer with a cold look. A little behind, Louis threw the interviewer a dirty look.
"So, One Direction! Congratulations on the album, as you all know its out on November the 22nd, with eighteen new songs, including the singles Night Changes and Steal My Girl Speaking of stealing girls, do you think I could steal your number Y/N? And may I mention, you look ver, very hot in that outfit" The interviewer joked, throwing you what he thought was a sexy smirk. (P.S - it wasn't) Answering with an awkward laugh, you shook your head, as Niall tensed up beside you. "Aww come on, your'e a pretty girl, I'm a handsome guy, let's go out sometime" he pressed on, ignoring the growing anger in Harry's eyes. "That's umm, nice. But no thanks, I'm not going to go out with you" was your answer, as you pushed a strand of hair behind your ear. Picking up on your nervous tic, Zayn moved his hand to rest on your knee, stopping it from bouncing up and down.
"Aww come on baby, what is it? You like girls or something? Because I wouldn't mind being a part of that action either" the sleazebag chuckled, ignoring the disgusted look Liam sent his way. "That's rude" Liam said, while Zayn tightened his grip on your knee. "Oh come on lads, are you telling me the idea doesn't appeal to you? Two women together, mm, makes me all excited just thinking about it, especially if one of them's Y/N" That comment was all it took for Louis to stand up, turning to the man and saying in a voice much rougher than his usual voice, "Alright, that's fuckin' enough, what the fuck is actually wrong with you?" he was backed up by Liam, who stood up, going to tower over the interviewer, whose eyes had lost some of the sleazy look in them. "All you've done since we walked in here is make those disgusting comments about Y/N, and it's sickening. Have some fucking respect" he practically spat.
Behind him, Zayn took your hand in his and pulled you to your feet, noticing the slight glossiness in them, leading you back to the dressing rooms, while Niall, Liam, Louis and Harry stayed back to continue to snap at the interviewer. "That is no way to treat a woman, and not only are you disrespecting her, you also made those god awful events about seeing women together. Your'e a shame to every single person in this room by talking like that" Harry continued, glancing over his shoulder to check if you were okay.
"And no, it doesn't excite us, because we are not assholes, and you are, a disgusting sleaze who does not deserve the job he has. Fuckin loser" Niall chimed in, standing up and storming out. Louis stood up as well, turning to directly face the cameras and the cameramen and sound technicians, who had all looked shocked when the man had made his comments towards you. "I sure as hell hope you have that on record, so you can see just how fucking sexist this industry is to women. Y/N does the same job as us, works just as hard and has the same number of awards, nominations, and records and yet you decide to only focus on her body, clothes, love life and sexuality. Get a fucking life" he spat at the camera, before walking away himself, eventually followed by Harry and Liam, who apologized to the outraged fans before leaving themselves. As they made their way to the dressing rooms they could hear the audience telling the interviewer to apologize to you, their anger at the way you were treated echoing through the building.
Walking in, Harry caught sigh of you curled up in one of the armchairs, with Louis sitting beside you, while Niall and Zayn talked to a furious Paul. "He had no damn right to treat her like shite, and you need to make sure that he knows those comments were un-fuckin-acceptable" Niall was saying, looking angrier than Harry had ever seen him. "And to make those sickening comments about wanting to get action? Can't we sue him for something?" Was Zayn's reply, glancing over his shoulder at you to make sure you were still okay. "We can't sue him, atleast I don't think we can, but I'll have someone let the smug bastard know that he needs to learn how to respect a woman" Paul said, before leaving the room to give the six of you some time together before you had to head back to the hotel.
"How're you feeling darling?" Louis said, moving over and patting your knee so you moved. "I'm okay" you mumbled back, letting Louis settle in next to you, leaning back to rest on his chest. "He had no fuckin right to say any of that, and don't you let it trouble you for a second" Zayn added, pouring out a cup of tea for you and for Louis and Harry. "I don't care about what he said, I couldn't care less, but it was just so frustrating, sitting there and listening to him just sexualize a whole community of people. You've got to be in a really sad place to think of shit like that. That's what annoyed me. You think I give a damn about what he said about my clothes or wanting to take me out on a date? It was the way he was talking, like he was sure any woman would be glad to have him that irked me. He's really tiresome" was your reply, as you reached forward for a sip of your tea. "That's the right attitude love. Haters gonna hate" Harry said.
"I know that. But I just wish I could punch him once, which sounds mean, but he does kind of deserve it" Niall said, earning a laugh from you. Niall was never usually aggressive, and even now, he wasn't particularly rude but it was rare to see him wanting to punch someone. "It's okay Niall, you don't have to. I can do it myself, but I won't" you replied, leaning up to squeeze his hand. "Besides, Ni, if you went and punched him, I'd do it too, and then we'd all go to jail" Liam chimed in, scrolling through his twitter. "Twitter isn't happy either babe. #stopsexualization and #Y/Ndeservesbetter is trending already" he added, showing you his phone. "If it means some of these sexist asses get their heads out of the sand, I'm happy. But I dont want to to think about it now" you replied, cuddling closer to the warmth radiating from Louis's body.
"Okay, we won't talk about it. Do you want to go back to the hotel?" Harry asked, standing up and walking to the door "No I want to go to Nando's. Anybody else hungry?" You asked, to nods of assent from the boys. "I'm starving. Those stupid sandwiches didn't fill me up at all" Zayn said, standing up to grab his coat and wallet. "I know and I'm craving some hot Peri Peri chicken with some fries. Do you think they'd let me put the lemon and herb sauce on the fries?" You asked, standing up yourself, earning a laugh from Louis. "Your'e an international superstar babe, I think they'd give you some lemon herb sauce" Liam joked.
Laughing, the six of you made your way to the car, with Harry and Niall squishing you in between them, as Louis sat in the back with Liam, and Zayn sat in the front with Paul (he was driving thank GOD) "I'm proud of you darling" Harry chimed in suddenly. "I am too" Niall added. "You know I am" Louis said, before Liam added "Always babe" and Zayn turned to smile at you before adding, "We are all proud of you, and we always will be, not only because you do a damn good job of not listening to the haters, but because you do what you think is right" "Awh come on, your'e gonna make me cry" you mumbled, leaning into Niall's shoulder. "Almost makes me feel bad for teasing you about having an extremely low spice tolerance the last time we were at Nando's Haz" you smirked, earning a roar of laughter from the boys.
"That chicken was spicy love!" "It was lemon and herb with no peri peri!" "And it was spicy!"
And just like that, you were back to messing around with each other. Sleazy interviewers would come and go, but your boys were always there to support you. Always.
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A/N - Thanks for reading ! I'd also like to apologize on the behalf of this fictitious interviewer I made up, I felt so bad while writing some of this 😭 anyways, I hope this is what you wanted! Enjoy !
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Heya!
Can I request James, Albert and William and the head cannons for them getting flustered/how they would react to the rest of the team bullying them for there crush on reader
(You don’t have to if you don’t want to just cute idea I had while half asleep💕💕)
Hello dear!how are you? ( ˘ ³˘)♥
Omgs this is the cutest thing ever!!!i can totally imagine that happening!
I swear you always have the greatest ideas!
Lets get started,shall we?
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Albert
•Albert was an Affectionate man,that was no news
•he always showed his care visibly for the people he loved,his family,his friends and his comrades
•but ever since you joined their merry gang,the man became even more affectionate if possible
•and he didnt even try to hide it
•the way he would gift you simple but meaningful things,
•like the coffee he knew you would love
•or an old novel you once mentioned to him
•and his affaction didnt go unnoticed by his friends.
• "you love her, don't you?"
•James Bond always seem to know everything
• "why dont you confess already?"
•Albert of course,didnt give the man the satisfaction of showing any reaction
• "oh come on Albert-San!its nothing to be ashamed of!"
• Albert had a very strong urge to not stop drinking at that
•good thing Louis had filled his glass recently (and left the bottle next to him)
•he could still feel James Bond's Meaningful stare on him,his teasing smile never leaving his lips
•but he didn't give in,no
•he poured himself another drink
• "do you need a hand?should i go confess to her on your behalf?"
•another glass
• "maybe you should ask Sebastian for advices. He's really good at catching ladies' hearts."
• sixth glass
• "on second thought,i myself am pretty good at that as well-"
• "Nee-san?"
•when a pale hand takes hold of Albert's,the one holding the wine glass
•Albert looks up, Louis's concerned face slightly hazy
• "nee-san...are drunk?!"
•huh,is he?
•Albert has a high alcohol tolerance,but even for him draining four bottles of the best wine out there is a bit...too much
• "ok,lets get you to your room shall we?"
•When Sebastian hooks an arm around his Friend, Albert lets out a small hiccup
• "hold on hold on!!!"
• And when James Bond walks straight to his face
•and bursts into the most devilish grin
• and screams the most awful thing
• "ALBERT ARE YOU FUCKING BLUSHING?!'
•Albert wont know tomorrow (pretends to) because he was too drunk to remember anything
James Bond
•James Bond isnt someone who blushes easily
•he's a flirtatious man,his wink could (and would) kill
•but he was never serious about anyone
•not until he met you
•he started slow, flirting with you every chance he got
•but as time goes by,he understood this is not a simple crush
•thats how Sebastian finds James Bond in one of the bars downtown
•his head on the surface
•the bartender sighing and fixing him with another shot
•Sebastian had no chance but to sit next to him
• "what the fuck is wrong with you?!"
•what can he say, he's a supportive friend
• "Sebastian-Kun!!!did you see how gorgeous she was today?with her new dress and her new hairstyle?"
• Sebastian was speechless
• "i-"
• "and the way she laughed?!"
• "what-"
• "not to mention her eyes!!!"
• "BOND!"
• Sebastian shakes the man by his shoulders
• "who the fuck are you even talking about-"
•James Bond downs the whole shot in one go
• "oh."
• oh
• "THIS IS FUCKING PRICELESS!ARE YOU IN LOVE WITH HER?!"
•James Bond pointedly ignores his outburst
•he downs another shot and motions for the bartender to keep coming
• "i cant believe it. The mighty James Bond has fallen in love,and you made fun of others!"
•When James Bond doesnt respond, Sebastian huffs out an amused laugh
•and pats the other man's shoulder
• "happens to all of us oneday,son"
•and if James Bond turns a pretty shade of red and shows Sebastian his middle finger
•it'll be only between them
William
•William never thought of himself falling in love
•he was always too busy
•with being an older brother at first
•then a younger one
•then making a whole plan on how to save london (read:kill himself)
•and it was not far in your friendship that he found himself wanting to get closer and closer to you
•the urge to make you smile and laugh
•to hear your cheerful voice,free from all the worries in the world
•and he simply found himself smiling for real at your presence
•he never wanted to be alone again after meeting you
•unlike the other two,William isnt a type to drink (not to escape his problems at least)
•so he simply stays quiet,smiling along with you and even laughing here and there
•but its on one particular night
•where you two are guests at some royalty's party
•and he sees you in your new dress
•and then you turn to smile at him,
•your eyes lightening up
•that William finds it even hard to breath
•he needed to calm himself down,but he's not alone
•Albert,while drinking his fourth glass of wine is standing right next to him
•and now that William glances at him
•he sees Albert's meaningful stare
•and his smirk
•he never smirks
•that William feels like he's a teenager again
•getting caught red handed eyeing a book he wanted so bad but was too shy to ask for it
•and his fuckin ears heat up
•he coughs loudly,and gripping the glass of Champagne he's holding tighter
•before his brother taking hold of it
• "you'll break the glass you know."
•William wanted to crawl into a hole and never come back
•he can feel Louis's mouth gaping as his cheeks turn a shade redder
•and when Albert laughs loudly and clinks his glass with James Bond's
•William escapes from the room and doesnt come back until the ball is over
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i'm really sick of this trend across tumblr that louis and harry owe larries or houies or anybody really any reason to show ppl they're still together. like?? they're people?? not fucking fictional characters?? be happy with what they do give us, they don't owe us shit, i dont understand why ppl think relationships, esp long term ones, change with a blink of an eye. how does someone go from thinking they're still together to not? bc they're living their WELL DESERVED private lives? can't relate
WOW THE TEA IS SCALDING
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Is it Harry you don't like or how he's been branded since the early 1D days? How the media pegged him as the front man when clearly there 5 great guys in the band? I'm just curious because I like Harry and the four other guys equally in terms of music, even before they started making solo music.
im gonna kinda combine this answer with an anon i should have responded to weeks ago “i've noticed you dislike harry, especially recently with him promoting his new music, but i'm not sure how/why it started exactly. could you explain??”
for me now it’s that i don’t like harry and that’s a position i’ve come to over the course of the past 2-3 years and i think i can break that evolution down into two broad categories: his relation to zayn (both pre- and post-march 2015) and how he has approached going solo (again both pre- and post-1d going on a break). 
and what’s most important about these two for me is that it is hard to explain away his actions in these categories as Harry Styles™; these are HIS choices, HIS words, HIS actions thus forcing me to dislike harry styles the person
for the sake of people’s dashes i’m putting a read more, but for those interested i’ve written a novel explaining these categories in more detail below (deadass i just copied it all into word and it’s 1500 words long..... im-.....)
1) how harry relates to zayn
i list his relation to zayn first because i truly believe this says something about his character. he has done things specifically re: zayn that have nothing to do with how he’s been branded in 1d or how the media has portrayed him; his actions that im going to discuss and that have most negatively affected my view of him are all on harry styles the person
it really started in the summer of 2014 when he waved the inflatable hammer of israel around at a concert during a time of heightened tensions between israel and palestine (and by heightened tensions i mean more war crimes and atrocities committed by the apartheid-esque occupational regime of israel). he asked those fans for that hammer, he is the one who has multiple zionist connections and could easily be considered a zionist himself. that’s on harry styles the person. meanwhile zayn tweets #FreePalestine shortly after that and is abused off of twitter. i recognize that the (racist) double standard here is not coming directly from harry but he benefits from it (and always has) and he plays into it and i can’t even imagine how zayn felt as a muslim man having to sit and watch his bandmate get a free pass for supporting a genocidal regime while he is eviscerated for one tweet of support. harry’s role in all this was the first moment i truly began to dislike him as a person
then we have his actions after zayn left. i will never claim to know what went down. im not sure we will ever know the whole ‘truth’ of zayn leaving and i’ve always said there’s shades of grey, no clear right and wrong, good and bad. it was messy but the bottom line is that zayn left (at least in part) because he was in an unhealthy state both mentally and physically and no one deserves that. so for all that the remaining four may have been justifiably hurt, confused, angry, etc. at things we can’t even possibly know about or understand re: zayn leaving, zayn deserves to be happy and healthy and people need to respect that. i do not think harry (nor his fans) respected that or zayn himself at all in the wake of him leaving. harry’s actions during mitam promo was, in my opinon, the most egregious and blatantly disrespectful. all four of them demonstrated sadness and/or bitterness at times but harry’s behavior (such as saying the ‘paperwork’ was the hardest part of z leaving, kicking a z mask off the stage, etc.) came across to me as petty, immature, spiteful and mean-spirited. it was not a spite that i saw in the other three. as a ztan (and also just a decent human?) i lost a lot of respect for harry in those months. i think these actions showed his true colors and those are not colors which i like very much.
also i’ve discussed this a bit on this blog but with the benefit of hindsight i do believe that a lot of those bitter actions re: zayn came from a selfish place of anger at zayn for ‘beating’ him to the solo game and from a place of ‘i’m going to villainize this person in order to make myself look better now and down the line.’ i think that was ‘proven’ for me when the build up for harry’s solo material included a LOT of very intentional mentions and comparisons to zayn. obviously that was something the media and people were going to do anyway but it was to a degree that felt sanctioned and encouraged; i think that comparison and that emphasis of ‘zayn as the evil judas who left, harry as the one who stayed until it was time’ was part of harry and his teams promo strategy (that backfired when SOTT flopped compared to pillowtalk, hence why i think those comparisons in big outlets have ceased, but i digress)... that’s a lot more of my own interpretation and my own reading of the info i have so it’s not as concrete as the stuff above but it does factor into my personal view of harry annnnnd it also connects nicely to my second point
2) his solo approach
now this is a more complex issue, and more of it *could* be attributed to Harry Styles™ but im going to preface my discussion by saying that harry chose his team. he’s been hanging with the azoffs on his personal time since 2013, his friendship with jeff has always been in our faces, he’s very clearly in the driver’s seat of his career at the moment, just as niall and liam appear to be (louis is a different and extremely nuanced conversation). he’s been angling towards his solo career for YEARS and while i don’t necessarily think that in and of itself is a bad thing (everyone in bands esp boy bands does that kind of forward thinking), i think the way he has gone about it is by stepping on his four bandmates in one way or another and i think that’s really fucking shitty. he has leveraged the existing Harry Styles™ frontman, standout image to catapult himself into this weird realm of ‘im above everything, im too cool, im already a legend’ promo.
on top of that kind of broad stroke stuff, some of his specific actions are just......... eye-roll worthy. i mean think about what the FIRST thing he did was after 1D went on a break? yachtgate. you can brush that off as a stunt all you want (and obviously in many ways it was) but it was a stunt that encouraged a certain solo harry narrative. it helped solidify him as the a-lister of the band hanging with jenners on fancy boats. it helped solidify him as a ‘star in his own right’ signing contracts and paperwork with jeff. it was a stunt that HELPED harry.
this is kind of a digression but i do think it’s important to note the nuanced difference between harry and louis’ ‘stunts.’ totally disregarding conversations of ‘real or fake,’ if we look at the major ‘stunts’ harry and louis have undertaken in their careers (and within this im including anything that could be construed as their ‘personal life’ being projected publicly i.e. eleanor, danielle, babygate, taylor swift, kendull jenner, etc.) harry’s stunts have always boosted his public image while louis’ have always hurt his. i know that’s an EXTREMELY broad and generalizing brush to paint with and im not trying to say that harry’s image has always been ‘good’, i remember the womanizer days i cant even imagine how much that hurt him and it sucks. but basically harry’s stunts have always made him more famous, putting him in an increasingly better position to convert Harry Styles™ into solo success. louis’ stunts have consistently done the opposite, giving him a SERIOUS uphill battle when it comes to the general public and mainstream media acknowledging his solo endeavors.
this is a discrepancy that exists between harry and ALL the boys, not just with louis (though the gulf between them is the most... extreme i’d say). harry has always been positioned above liam, niall and zayn too, and what i have a problem with is how that is being leveraged and leaned into rather than dispelled. harry could easily take the approach niall has which is constantly recognizing the good that one direction did for him. even if he didn’t want to be so overt he could have at least tried to be as polite and gracious as zayn was, who while recognizing that he wanted to do his own thing and his own music was very conscious to acknowledge the good bits of 1D. instead we have this weird almost antagonistic approach in his (sparse) interviews wherein it feels like harry treats 1d as this thing that was holding him back, something he is now free of. it’s a pretentiousness that i dont appreciate
the final thing i’ll add in this section is in how he and his team are treating the fans that he does have. i am not one of those people but at times i feel quite bad? and sorry? for harries who are investing their time and money and effort into an artist who seems hell bent on ignoring them. this aloofness is demonstrated on his social media, i mean has he taken time to interact with or thank fans once????? the whole tour ticket debacle sounds horrendous and im sorry for fans that don’t get to go because harry and his team bungled it. there’s just a distinct...... disrespect for the fans he was bringing with him from the 1D days and that’s frustrating.
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How do you come to terms with the fact that a lot of poor people hold racist views (due to lack of education, living in rural communities that act as echo chambers of the same opinions, etc) while maintaining class solidarity? I don't mean to make it sound like all poor people are racist (I'm pretty poor myself tbh) but I know that statistically speaking, many of them are. When I hear working class, I can't help but think trump voter sometimes...
This is an excellent question!! This is a question that deserves a lot of discussion (so yeah, this is an essay, sorry!), and one that some people on the left may answer differently than I am going to, so I encourage you to get several points of view. My experience is very US based. The US is the only industrialized country without a labor party, and with the red scare we have a very unique history when it comes to workers movements.First of all, lets go over what class solidarity means (and what it does not). Class solidarity I really do think can be summed up in the phrase “An injury to one is an injury to all”. Like, if there is one worker that is being exploited, then it is bad for everyone. If anyone among the class is being victimized, we all need to step in to defend them. This means that white workers need to come out and defend black men from violence by the police. It means that all male workers should strike in solidarity with their female coworkers when they learn there is a wage gap. And yes, it does also mean that immigrant workers should not cross picket lines….But class solidarity does NOT mean that immigrants are to blame for US citizens losing jobs, even if they do cross picket lines. Marxism comes with the understanding of the material circumstances that have lead to immigrant workers being in such a dire economic position- and that it is the capitalists who take advantage of that who are the ones to blame. Solidarity does NOT mean pushing aside the struggles that our black, women, gay, immigrant workers face in order to prioritize the struggles of the ‘less oppressed’. 
So, yeah, even in theory class solidarity is something that is going to be very difficult to build. You try to imagine telling a Mexican immigrant mother of three that she should not take that job because ~class solidarity~. Like, no fucking way. In an ideal world, the union organizers would help her find another job, or get her connections that could help her find one. but lets be real.
I know what you mean though, when you say you think of Trump supporters. i was outside a homeless shelter, defending it from being shut down by the city, and the camera man (amateur, not from a news station) taking statements in support of the shelter confided that he was a trump supporter. He believed that when Trump said this one thing he was really supporting homeless people! (who even knows what that thing was trump never makes any damn sense)The lesson of this story is that yes, these people have racist bias  because they could excuse every racist thing trump said, but that’s very different from voting for trump FOR his racist ideas first and foremost. Many people who voted for trump did so because of party loyalty, or because nothing about their situation had changed with a democrat in office, or because they saw Clinton as the embodiment of Wall Street (which she is) and everything that was going to lead them to unemployment. This is how having two capitalist parties screws over everyone. Lesser evil-ism eventually leads to more evil.When it comes to specifically with dealing with racist bias among white working class people, from an organizational standpoint it all comes down to how you decide you want to use your resources, time, and energy. Lots of leftist groups focus in urban areas- where racism is less of a problem than it is in rural areas, because of the constant interaction between white, black, latino people in their day-to-day jobs. When a black guy agrees to pick up your shift so you can go to your kid’s birthday party, no doubt you’re probs not gonna be as antagonistic to black people in general. Also, a lot of leftist groups are focusing more and more on the youth, the FUTURE OF SOCIETY! They are much more receptive to socialism, class unity, and well- less racist. Like, yes, there are polls that show youth still have a lot of racial bias, but most of that is kept close to the chest in today’s urban youth and you can’t deny things have changed in the past 50 years. It is largely the youth that spear-heads revolutionary movements- the average age of the Bolshevik party in its early years was 19!!! The rest of the population- whether they would agree or not- WILL follow them, even if they started out with racist beliefs.In any case, like I said, a leftist organization has to choose where it is going to spend efforts to recruit new members. At this stage in the US, these are not going to be people who are way out in rural areas who think mexicans are stealing all the jobs. First, we dont have the resources to go out to the boonies anyway, let alone for someone who thinks we should attack people of color. The workers who have really deep-seated racist beliefs are not ones that we want to spend time and energy on, at least in this phase.Now, there may be exceptions- if someone is otherwise very left-leaning, is an involved union member, and generally agrees with a lot of our other ideas, we may set aside time to have discussions on race, the history of the oppression of black people, discussions on imperialism and immigration, and hopefully we can change their mind on some issues. As an individual who may confront certain other racist workers, I advise trying to facilitate a discussion on one of these topics. Give them room to express where they are coming from, try and find out why they think the way they think. Like, where did they hear that a Mexican might steal their job? Have you seen or heard about an example of this? Try to be patient with them. Maybe give examples of a Mexican you know, tell a bit of their story, and find things that they have in common. You will see a lot of the vehement racism trickle away when they realize someone is actually listening to them and their experiences. This is not an easy or quick process, it will NOT be an easy discussion, and you should only try it if you are willing to put in that time and energy, and if they seem like they can actually be won over with discussion alone. This is why leftist groups often leave it to the wayside, to confront at a later date. If you encounter antagonizers that simply pose racist ‘gotchya’ questions to try and make your ideas seem wrong, it might be helpful to go over some quick elevator talk answers so you can respond quickly and show anyone else listening that you will defend people of color. That is kind of a separate issue though, i think, than what you’re referring to. 
Later on, workers with racist attitudes will be brought into the fold- they will come willingly and their minds will change by the example we lead. It is capitalism that fuels the fires of these divisions between the races. When capitalism is threatened, when they are weak, they will not be able to keep pouring out that fuel onto us, those divisions will start to crumble. During a strike, or a demonstration, these workers will share the same ideas, and that experience will do most of the work with regards to chipping away at racist bias.
For example, the national railroad strike in the US in 1877 largely breached race lines, capitalists had to go super heavy after that with racist propaganda to prevent it from growing or happening again. In St. Louis, MO, a place where racial divisions between black and white people were never anything but fucking Intense, the workers really did unite and briefly seize control of the city’s imports and exports. They were betrayed by a Klan member working for the capitalists. When there is a concrete struggle, throughout history it has been shown that workers will come together to fight a class war. Eventually, those with heavy racial bias will come over to our side- they are already learning that the capitalists of either party in the US do not have their best interests in mind. 
But only when you have a strong workers’ party and infrastructure can you bring those in. My advice is to focus on expressing solidarity with other oppressed groups, develop some go-to responses for a few popular racist statements, show by your actions, rather than your words, that you stand for all workers. Sorry this was such an incredibly long answer, I hope this helps! please feel like you can ask follow up questions too, you or anyone else. 
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omglr · 5 years
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cw: consent, sexual harrassment, louis ck
You're now chatting with a random stranger. Say hi!
You both like feminism, and feminist.
You: hi
Stranger: Hey
Stranger: What you think of the louis ck thing
You: what thing?
You: the thing from like a year ago?
You: or is there something new?
Stranger: Well its still ongoing
Stranger: People are still pissed hes back
Stranger: They protest all his shows even though all his shows are selling out
You: eh, yeah i was a big fan of his, but am not that interested anymore
Stranger: Why
Stranger: Why are you not a fan anymore
You: eh, he was like so smart and could make you think and laugh about anything, but instead of taking responcibility for this years ago, or even coming back with interesting material
You: he just came back and was like, guess trans people are freaks eh?
Stranger: He didnt do anything wrong so why would he announce this years ago
You: the jerking off infront of ladies thing tho?
Stranger: Did you ever look into what actually happened. He didnt do anything wrong
Stranger: He asked permission everytime he did it and this was before he was big
You: yeah, he didn't read the room tho
You: sometimes women aren't in a position to say no
Stranger: They said yes or laughed. Only years later did they decide they didnt like it. Dont gimme that read the room shit
Stranger: This whole post withdrawal consent thing is nonsense
You: again, i don't think it was the worst thing someone could do, but he denied that it had ever happened for years
Stranger: Arent in a position to say no? Thats horse shit. Even if he can help your career thats a choice a person has to make for themselves
You: and the women weren't into it
Stranger: Years later
Stranger: They consented. So again he did nothing wrong
You: just cause you heard about it years later doesn't mean they didn't think it was fucked up at the time
Stranger: Doesnt matter if they thought it was fucked up at the time. They consented
You: eh...
You: seems you got a loose understanding of consent
You: like, that's something you should try to figure out
Stranger: If you give a woman mediocre sex and shes not into at the time. Does she get to decide after the fact that she didnt even consent?
Stranger: No seems to me like you dont understand consent
You: its sexual harrasment in the workplace if nothing else
You: and yeah dude, when you ask a woman for consent, you have to be aware that their could be an implication that if she says no, something fucked up might happen to her beyond the fucked up thing you are asking for
You: that's not really consent
You: so like, that's just a lesson you should learn, early in life
You: and not try to argue with women about it cause its like a bad look for you
Stranger has disconnected.
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