I was chilling on a livestream where someone was making a bingo card for the scarlet and violet trailer and someone was constantly talking about how submas should be in gen 9 cause it would be sad and how Emmet should be the leader of the villain organization for the "sad motive" and I just left

Throughout the whole trailer I was just dreading any possible reference to submas and how the tag would mutate into something worse somehow.

On a lighter note Scarlet and Violet look interesting

So that's where that came from. That is not a very good take at all, and it doesn't make sense with the theme of the games. Pokemon also doesn't really do characters or organizations spanning across multiple Gens. Team Rocket is an exception and so is Looker, and there might be more that I'm forgetting. Mostly what we get are cameos in optional areas, or else they don't affect the plot much. Ingo's an odd case of being more than a cameo, and he seems like he would have a subplot about remembering and returning home but so far he doesn't. But we've never seen something like a character from one game turn up several Gens later as a villain, and something like that, or making games sadder is not the kind of stories the series likes to tell.

I can't even go into the tags anymore, and when I do, so much comes up as being blocked due to my filters. I'm tired of the angst and sadness and the demand for it. (And it seems like the ableism is becoming more of a problem? I'm seeing more people addressing it).

I feel like the Submas tags on here are in their own bubble, if that makes sense. I suspect the average Pokemon fan is not expecting or demanding a Submas appearance in Scarlet and Violet. I know people in the tags are jumping on the whole "past and future themes" but we don't know much about that right now at all, save for the box Legendaries seem to be themed towards that as well as the Professors' names and clothing. At times it feels like people forget that Submas wasn't essential to the plot of Gen 5, and PLA is not a Submas-centric game. Scarlet and Violet are new games, focusing on a new region with its own stories and characters. The story was likely done before PLA released. Putting Submas in can, and given the fans and fandom, would take the attention from everything else. If anything, the game devs may have learned from PLA that putting in Ingo and/or Emmet overshadows the other characters and main plot. Even people who didn’t know or like Submas before and didn’t jump on the fandom train are wondering how and why Ingo got to Hisui and why there’s been no closure for him.

There's also a very good chance that Ingo will turn up when they revisit 5th Gen with barely any or no references to PLA, like it never happened, and/or we'll find out later PLA takes place in its own universe, or something like the variants are canon but the story wasn't. Pokemon might not be into angst, grimdark, overall sad stories, etc, but it DOES work with different dimensions and alternate universes. The most reference to them I expect to see would be something like an ad for the Battle Subway or reference like the kids talking about it in Hulbury's train station in SwSh. It would be a nice thing to let us know he's OK, but any reference is more likely just to let us know we can expect to revisit Unova next.

I like the new Pokemon we’ve seen so far. I also find it interesting that the new rival looks a bit older than the player character. I’m not so keen on the box Legendaries yet, but I’m excited to see a true open world, explore at whatever pace I want, and I’m wondering if they’ll have Gyms, how that will factor into the open world, or if they’ll do something else. (Sorry for the long reply!)