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incorrectghostfiles · 12 hours
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Watcher, once they read all the comments to their announcement:
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mando-lore · 12 hours
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The most important comment in this whole mess
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sentaluise · 12 hours
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alright game plan: who‘s downloading all the old videos & putting it in a google drive & who is taking one for the team, getting that subscription & sharing their password with everyone?
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wearewatcher · 12 hours
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We’re Leaving YouTube
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moonbeamdagger · 11 hours
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love that everyone is united in just going “terrible idea. wish you the best. thanks for the laughs. bye.”
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incorrectghostfiles · 12 hours
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While I'm proud of watcher for branching out, I'm not sure hiding everything behind a pay wall was the smartest thing to do actually.
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its-ticsticstics · 12 hours
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As a long-time fan of Watcher and even BuzzFeed back in the day, I'm beyond bummed out at the decision they've made.
I can't afford a streaming service. Paywalls are ruining the internet and turning it into cable TV.
This came with absolutely no warning and it feels like a weird betrayal of loyal fans.
Best of luck to them, but this isn't a journey I can support.
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monstersw1thv1bes · 12 hours
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things the watcher guys could do that aren't CREATING A WHOLE ASS NEW STREAMING SERVICE THAT THE WORLD DOESN'T NEED:
put seasons of their shows out on DVDs. bonus if you can add behind the scenes content or even commentary that would then only exist on those dvds, so people have more reason to buy (leave the originals up as they are, though).
put their shows on already existing streaming services, preferably ones that are already popular rather than really niche ones, though I do understand that maybe getting your stuff on a popular streaming service is harder than on a less popular one so i wouldn't flame them for that.
idk sell more and better merch? like I've looked at their merch before and none of it seemed all that nice to me even though I am an impulse buyer and always wanted everything by the people I'm a fan of (you wouldnt believe the amount of clothes i have that are straight up youtuber merch. we're talking more than 2/3rds of my wardrobe). probably would have actually bought some of watcher's merch if it was better. the only thing I was ever tempted to buy was the professor plushie.
also lowering the price of good merch even marginally (without making it not-profitable) = more people can afford it = you earn more.
create a new show that isn't already available for free and put that on your patreon or something. give your viewers who can afford it a better reason to pay you.
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bergoozter · 11 hours
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he said steal from the rich
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avaisdramatic · 11 hours
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Putting this comment on here because I feel like I’m actually going insane…
It seems like nobody in the comments even watched the video, complaining about how paying for content is difficult in this economy, like, that's why they are doing this! They cannot continue to make the content they want for free based on ads and sponsors alone. If you have paid attention to the "Making Watcher"s of recent years, their company is not, and has not been profitable. They are so dependent on advertisers for funding that it is becoming a restriction to the content they want to make (y'a know, like Buzzfeed was), so they had to find a solution. I don't know why you all seem to think you are entitled to free content, I understand not everyone can afford it but Watcher doesn't owe you content personally. Frankly, I doubt they wanted to put their content behind a paywall, but if it's that or not make content at all, of course they are going to try to find a solution. So no, they aren't "turning into Buzzfeed” because the massive problem with Buzzfeed was its restrictions on creative freedom and exploitation of its workers. If Watcher wants to produce fulfilling content that gives their editors, designers, producers, etc full creative freedom and a livable wage, this is the best option. If you want them to pay their workers the bare minimum and tailor their content to advertiser interests just so you can watch it for free, that's fine. Just don't pretend that they are some evil media mega-corporation and you are the anti-capitalist shining hero for saying it. You don't have to like it, and you don't have to continue to support them, but don't try to shame and demonize them for making an already difficult decision.
Many of you DO have an understanding of the difficult position our current economic system puts people in because you have experienced it, but you are so unable to extend that understanding beyond your own point of view. Look past yourself for a moment and think critically, and maybe you will understand their perspective. Much love for all of the talented people within Watcher who are doing their best.
And just to add, their format going forward is almost IDENTICAL to CollegeHumor-Dropout's streaming service format (even down to the free premieres and advocating for sharing accounts with friends), which most people praise to high heaven as "the only ethical streaming service." As a huge fan of both companies the stark difference in response here is actually astounding...
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prideanddoubt · 9 hours
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i'm seeing that y'all are gonna let watcher control the narrative and act like we misunderstood them and they were never gonna remove their stuff from youtube. you can say whatever you want about their streaming service, but one thing is a fact: they are lying to us pretending that was not their intention and we're spreading misinformation. we not only aren't stupid and understood the video correctly, but also they told variety that that's what they were doing.
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alphadogmp3 · 12 hours
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making creative content online is very difficult now, i get that. i get why online creators would want to pivot to SVOD, like lindsay ellis who is now exclusively on nebula and collegehumor/droupout tv. it is tough to create when you are beholden to the whims and fancies of advertisers. HOWEVER, i cannot in good conscience say i like what watcher is doing right now. it feels extremely scummy and slimy to move entirely to streaming, without a significant transitional period, and to also delete your entire channel backlog in the process. it also feels scummy to launch a separate streaming platform while you have an active patreon where you are making a significant amount of money from your patrons--patrons who are most likely the ones to purchase a Watcher TV Subscription in the first place. i think CH did as good a job you can do when transitioning from AVOD to SVOD. in my humble opinion, CH also had a lot more of a reason to pivot to longer form subscription-based content as the changing YT algorithm made their short-form scripted sketch comedy a less and less viable business venture which matters a lot when you are a company that has over 100 full-time employees (at the time, before IAC sold and subsequently led to the bankruptcy of CH in january 2020). this just doesn't sit right with me. i would love to be proven wrong but as it stands i don't think watcher tv's existence is justifiable. this is disappointing, but honestly? not that surprising.
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mando-lore · 12 hours
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Reblog this to throw a tomato at Watcher for leaving YouTube to become a subscription service 🍅🍅🍅
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s0fter-sin · 10 hours
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people are acting like we’re saying creators shouldn’t be paid for their work; they absolutely should. and watcher already is. they have a patreon, they get sponsors, their videos regularly get millions of views which gives them ad revenue, they sell merch; they are getting paid. feeling indignant and disappointed that they’re asking us to pay for content we were already getting for free isn’t entitlement, it’s expected. ​they wanted to make bigger produced shows and now their budget can’t sustain it, that’s not on the viewer to make up for
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winchesterszvonecek · 10 hours
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respectfully, this is a TERRIBLE idea and you’re about to lose the majority of your fanbase, myself included, because we can’t afford to eat, let alone subscribe to another streaming service
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