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endless-bunny · 8 months

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Pathfinder Iconics Comparison Part 6: Who's left?

[Part 1: Classes with Different Iconics] [Part 2: Core Classes] [Part 3: The Remaining PF2 Classes] [Part 4: Classes Who Got Demoted] [Part 5: Prestige Classes]

And so we come to the end of our journey. It's been a ride. Out of forty total classes in PF1, only twelve* remain that we have yet to examine. * Only twelve classes, but we actually have 17 Iconic characters left to look at, more on that later

Hybrid Classes

Top: Crowe (Bloodrager, he/him), Kess "The Bull" (Brawler, she/her), Adowyn & Leryn (Hunter, she/her) Bottom: Hakon (Skald, he/him), Zadim (Slayer, he/him), Oloch (Warpriest, he/him)

Half of the remaining classes are Hybrid classes from the Advanced Player's Guide. The Hybrid classes, as I've mentioned before, are meant to blend two "parent" classes, taking features from both but creating a play experience that is distinct from either. Some of these achieved their goals better than others.

A lot of the game design space that was occupied by the hybrid classes can now be filled by PF2's multiclassing system. While in PF1 it was often preferable to pick, say, Bloodrager over a Barbarian/Sorcerer multiclass, in PF2, the Archetype feats make it easier to do so. With just a few feats, a Barbarian can gain spellcasting abilities from the Sorcerer without losing any of their potency as a frontline fighter.

If I were a gambling bun — and let's be real, I spend most of my time playing games with dice — I'd say we won't be seeing the Hunter or Warpriest again as full classes in their own right. It seems like one of Oloch's parents got full custody.

In PF2, the Warpriest is one of two Doctrines that can be taken by the Cleric, sacrificing some magical potency in favour of increased martial prowess. Similarly, the niche formerly occupied by the Hunter is now occupied by certain Ranger abilities.

The Hunter was a Ranger who lost some combat focus in exchange for starting with a pet, like a Druid, rather than having to wait until Lv.4. The PF2 Ranger can start with a pet, making the niche formerly occupied by the Hunter pretty redundant.

As for the others, never say never. Even if they don't show up as classes, Paizo might surprise us with archetypes. And Oloch has already shown up in Hollow Mountain as a member of Seltyiel's adventuring party (along with Damiel and Meligaster) so it's not impossible that they might show up in future comics or books.

I feel like I sort of cheated with Shardra and maybe she should also be included here, since she wasn't used for a character option.

Occult Classes

Erasmus (Medium, he/him); Meligaster (Mesmerist, he/him)

The Kineticist and Psychic appear in PF2, while the Occultist and Spiritualist have successors in the Thaumaturge and Summoner, respectively. That leaves only two of the classes from Occult Adventures without representation in PF2. The Medium and the Mesmerist.

The Medium can channel spirits of the dead to gain their knowledge and skills for a time, manifesting in-game as bonuses to specific types of rolls.

The Mesmerist uses psychic magic to control the minds of others. Meligaster appears in Hollow Mountain as a member of Seltyiel's adventuring party, and shows off his mastery of psychic control.

Erasmus's glowing yellow eyes really sell the "possessed" angle, and the grey hair streaking his temples hints at continual psychic stress. I love his array of unconventional tools: the ouija board and planchette, the crystal ball, and the handful of... Harrow(?) cards, all very neat for divining and communing with the spirit world. He's also incredibly fashionable. It takes a brave man to wear a cravat and a scarf but he pulls it off.

Meligaster's appearance is great, I love his tall hat and the hypnotic, swirling spiral patterns on his clothes. Wayne did a great job of making his stare really intense, which is what the Mesmerist is all about. He really fixes his gaze upon the viewer, making it hard to appreciate the other fine details in his costume.

I'm not betting on these two classes making a return any time soon but I wouldn't rule out the possibility of Meligaster coming back in the story; he's the long-lost brother of Lem, the Iconic Bard. There's a fair bit of bad blood between them so I could see that getting resolved as part of a future storyline.

Alternate (Eastern) Classes

Ninja (Reiko, she/her*), Samurai (Hayato, he/him) * Liz Courts, author of Meet The Iconics: Reiko stated in this messageboard post that Reiko is a female-presenting genderqueer/genderfluid character, but was not speaking in the capacity of a member of Paizo's editorial staff at that time. Reiko's gender identity is thus not canonically confirmed.

These are two Alternate classes from Ultimate Combat. The Ninja is an alternate Rogue, and the Samurai is an alternate Cavalier. Essentially, they take the basic class and swap out a couple of features here and there while keeping the core unchanged. The Samurai gets a mounted archery ability, for example, whereas the Cavalier gets the ability to train horses more easily; and the Rogue is better at finding and disarming traps, but the Ninja becomes adept in the use of poisons.

I think Wayne's signature style of "give them a tonne of stuff to carry around" really does good work for these two. A samurai who's armed to the teeth, or a ninja with the right tool for every occasion are both great. I think Hayato might be wearing a scabbard upside-down, though? If it's a katana, they were typically worn with the edge facing up, though it is also just a question of the personal preference of the wielder.

These two haven't shown up in PF2 yet, but I think it's only a matter of time. Next year, we're going to be getting not one, but two books about the continent of Tian Xia, the Asian-inspired region of Golarion. We'll be getting a World Guide and a Character Guide. We might see Reiko or Hayato over there, as background characters, class options or archetypes. Watch this space I guess

Base Classes

Inquisitor (Imrijka, she/her), Shifter (Zova, she/her)

And now we come to the last two player classes. The Inquisitor was introduced in the Advanced Player's Guide (2011), and the Shifter in Ultimate Wilderness (2017). Imrijka has been around a while and appeared in plenty of art, being featured in comics as recently as 2019. Zova, meanwhile, is much younger (in game terms). The Shifter was the very last class to be introduced. Ultimate Wilderness was the penultimate PF1 sourcebook line before the launch of Second Edition so Zova wasn't around very long before the writers started to focus on PF2 stuff.

The Inquisitor is an agent of their faith, tasked with tracking down threats to the orthodoxy, whether they are external (as in the case of devils and demons) or internal (such as corrupt priests).

The Shifter is... a shapeshifter, they can assume the form of an animal. They're kind of like a Druid, if Wild Shape was the main thing that that class did rather than just being one of many.

Though she's appeared in comics recently, I wonder if the unfortunate implications of Inquisiting are the reason we haven't seen the class in PF2 yet. The class description is:

Grim and determined, the inquisitor roots out enemies of the faith, using trickery and guile when righteousness and purity is not enough. Although inquisitors are dedicated to a deity, they are above many of the normal rules and conventions of the church. They answer to their deity and their own sense of justice alone, and are willing to take extreme measures to meet their goals. Role: Inquisitors tend to move from place to place, chasing down enemies and researching emerging threats. As a result, they often travel with others, if for no other reason than to mask their presence. Inquisitors work with members of their faith whenever possible, but even such allies are not above suspicion.

Advanced Player's Guide (2011), p.38

And... yikes? A small yikes. One singular yike. I like the idea of an Inquisitor-type class, there's a lot of interesting stuff you can do with a character whose only motivation is to root out corruption, like an Inspector Javert kind of thing. There's definitely space for that kind of character in PF2, it's the kind of character lots of players want to play. But in practice I worry that allowing such a character class, especially in organised play, might create unnecessary friction between players. The fact that the class description includes the phrase "extreme measures" was possibly enough to leave a bad taste in some people's mouths. It's a class that I like conceptually but I feel needs to be handled delicately to avoid upset.

It is still early days, though. PF1 was around for ten years and we're only into year 5 of PF2's existence. We might yet see the Inquisitor again.

The Shifter is a class that I think there is room for in PF2. There are already a bunch of feats and ancestry features that allow players to gain specific unarmed attacks by shapeshifting a little bit, so having a class that focusses on that seems like a no-brainer.

That being said, I feel like if they were going to bring the Shifter back, the upcoming Howl of the Wild book would be the perfect place to do it, and we've heard no mention of a Shifter in the preview material for that. Howl of the Wild is going to focus on seven new characters so maybe having Zova as well would be too much. I guess we'll have to see. It's definitely not the last opportunity for a Shifter to appear.

Zova is still kicking about. Here's an illustration from Lost Omens: The Mwangi Expanse where she just seems to be having a nice meal with some friends.

Iconic Villains

Top: Emil (Assassin/Rogue, he/him); Lazzero (Cleric of Asmodeus, he/him) Bottom: Linxia (Fighter/Hellknight she/her); Nyctessa (Necromancer Wizard, she/her); Zelhara (Inquisitor, she/her)

We've seen Urgraz, the Iconic Antipaladin, already, but he's only one of a line-up of iconic villains designed by Wayne Reynolds. None of these is a unique class; instead they were created for the Hell's Vengeance Adventure Path where the players are the baddies, a fun little inversion. I know lots of people love the idea of playing an all-villains game but never get round to it. Having a single Evil character in a party can end up being very disruptive, and I think having an all-Evil party might be difficult for the Game Master to navigate.

These five, plus Urgraz, have also appeared in the Pathfinder Adventure Card Game but I can't comment one way or another about that because I've never played it.

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At time of writing (23/08/23), Paizo has promised us a playtest preview of two "fresh, new" classes at the end of the month. I guess we'll have to wait and see just how fresh the faces are, we might see someone we recognise.

As for the rest, I do wonder if we'll see them again in PF2 material. I know that many of the Iconics are really popular among fans. There exists tonnes of cosplay, fan art, fan fiction and so on using all of these characters. People like having a diverse cast of blorbos that they can draw from, inventing little interactions or scenarios. There's probably a non-zero number of Lem X Ezren shippers out there.

Paizo recently established Pathfinder Infinite, an official distribution platform where fans can create original fiction using the canon characters and setting. I think it'd be interesting to see the relative frequency of the Iconics, who gets used regularly and who not at all. I remember Fanfiction.net used to allow you to see the number of fics written for a given character.

While I was putting this post together, a friend asked if I was planning on putting together similar posts about other non-characters such as archetypes, but unless I limited the scope of such a project somewhat arbitrarily (e.g. only tackling rulebooks and not campaign setting or adventure path stuff) it would quickly grow out of hand. I guess I'll think about it? I never planned when I set out on this quest to become the authority on Pathfinder characters. I also don't know how interesting it would be, since most of those sorts of character show up exactly once, maybe I'd limit myself to only characters who appear two or more times.

But that's another story for another time. That's yer lot for now.

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kalach-cha · 3 years

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some seltyiel + incubus edits for pride month. as always, no need to credit if you use!

#pathfinder #seltyiel #pride #pathfinder comics #my edits #cw flashing

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haltraveler · 4 years

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First Sajan wears a shirt and now Seltyiel???? What is with 2e’s anti-shirtlessness agenda!???

#pathfinder #pathfinder 2e #seltyiel #I am mad

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sydtropolis · 5 years

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I also painted this metal Reaper Mini Eldritch Knight over the weekend. I had to make a few modifications (trim the extra curl in his cloak and cut some of the ornate pieces off the handle of the sword. He had a frosty familiar, too.

#dnd #dungeons and dragons #rpg #tabletop #game #pathfinder #role playing #eldritch knight #reaper #minis #miniatures #painted #painter #artist #familiar #60032 #seltyiel #elf #fantasy

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incorrecticonics · 5 years

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#pathfinder #paizo #seoni #kyra sief al kiraan #valeros #seltyiel #Amiri of the six bears #lini #harsk #Merisiel sillvari #Ezren zefiir

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iviin-855 · 4 years

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Pathfinder iconics college au because it won't leave my head:

No magic, most gods exist in the way they do here

Not sure what the pathfinder society does here but it has to do with funding lots of different research and scholarships and stuff

Main team Iconics:

Kyra:

Orphan, raised in an orphanage run by the church of sarenrae

Very devout, plans to do misionary work after college

Mayors medicine, wants to be a doctor

Met Valeros after one of his bar nights. He puked in the university garden while she did her prayers there

Met him and the rest of the group again on an errand in the city when the group ran into trouble with their persistent research. The priests of sarenrae didn't just teach the children in the orphanage how to teach wounds... they also teached how to create them

Yes she and Merisiel still get together in this au

Ezren:

Third son of a business man, who after he left school never did much, left his family after he proved the embezzlement and illegal dealings allegations against his father right after he found out the truth in a search to prove his fathers innocence

After seeing he never did anything with his life he decides to start studying despite his age

Takes well to academics but lacks experience (wizard)

Mayors in archaeology

Admires the pathfinder societies contributions to science and wishes to join in research projects of the society someday

He wanted to stay in the old lodge, a no longer maintained old dorm of the society.

In order to get in on the program that gives out the dorms to students he needs to find others and together prove their worth as future scientists to the society

Only one who owns a car

It's one of those vans with a wizard painted on it

Valeros stayed in it for weeks after he didn't get into the frat he wanted because he didn't have a backup plan

Seoni:

Went to the city to study her peoples culture academically

Hopes to use the resources and documents to find more about her history

While she has an instinctual grasp of the subject at hand she struggles with the academical parts (sorcerer)

It doesn't help that her people aren't treated the best and that academic text regarding them are written rather one-sided

Met Ezren on a forum, they talked a lot since their interests were similar. When they met in the university they decided that the pathfinder society would be most useful to both of their goals

During the quest for the old lodge she proved themself there an capable leader and became the spokesperson for the roomates

When she first came to university seltyiel pulled a nasty prank on her she is still pissed about

Merisiel:

Orphan, came from a rough past, wants to use her sneakyness and knowledge of the criminal underworld for good

Studies law (meh) and criminology (more her style) in hopes of opening a private detective agency

"Professor wouldn't it be easier to [better way to do the crime]" "?!?" "Theoretically do the crime"

Overhead the group talking about breaking into somewhere to find out what is going on and decided to intervene before they get arrested (the group's plan was bad. "As if you never broke into somewhere before, terrible plan")

Helps Kyra, Shardra and Zova organize the universities lgbt+ club

Valeros:

Business mayor, came here for the frat life of the university his idol, cayden cailean, partied in rather than learning

Due to circumstances he cant join the frat so in need of housing he joins the quest for the old lodge

Helps Ezren with his research quest as thanks for letting him sleep in the van

He later changes to a criminology mayor and joins meri's agency as guard

Met Amiri during an barfight. Instant best friend's after they finished punching each other

Harsk:

Wants to be a park ranger, mayors in conservation and ecology

Met Lini in those courses

He met the group because he is very familiar with the wilderness near the city and they needed a guide

Either has dwarvism or is a dwarf, whether meri is an elf or not depends on the answer to this

Found an hurt badger. Biter lives in the backyard now.

Yes, this is against the rules

No, he does not care

The quest for the old lodge:

A relatively simple research regarding the city's historic buildings turned ...interesting when they uncovered some corruption regarding some properties of an high ranking member of the city council

First they only ran into little problems like missing blueprints, their requests and meetings deleted from the system and people refusing to meet them

Then seemingly random groups of thugs tried to "rob them"

At some point they try to involve the police which only ends them in more trouble since many of them work for that councilman

The evidence is hidden in a hut in the nearby forest, impossible to navigate without knowing the way

But they have harsk

They burst into a council meeting with press present and show them the evidence making it impossible to disappear it

The councilman gets convicted and they get a formal invitation to the society

One might ask what a academic institution wants with not only other academics but also with future investigators, guards and park rangers, well... lets just ay that the pathfinder society is not just a purely academic institution

#pathfinder #pathfinder iconics #let the dice decide #i tried to follow the comic a little #meri is a pi because i wasnt sure what else a rouge can use her abilities for good #adventurer is not really an career option in an modern au #even if they might just end up doing that for the society

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dungeon-warudo · 6 years

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Yet another mini heavily modifies from its true intent, this one’s the Seltyiel Iconic Magus (a half-elf) mini that I’m gonna use as a human wizard. You might note the demon on his hand, that’s supposed to be on fire, but instead it’s a raven. I’m considering chopping the horns off. You might also notice his chest is supposed to be exposed, and an elf ear pokes out on one side, AND he’s got a BIGASS sword instead of a wand, but these are all really rather minuscule complaints, really.

#minis #miniatures #dnd #dungeons & dragons #human wizard #armor #npcs #pets #familiars

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haaaaaaaaaaaave-you-met-ted · 2 years

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Pathfinder: Crown of Fangs - Seltyiel by Wayne Reynolds

#Pathfinder #Paizo #RPG #Fantasy #Art #Half-Elf #Magus #Seltyiel #Wayne Reynolds

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feyariel · 3 years

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What is it with Pathfinder iconics and white hair? In Core alone you have Merisiel, Seoni, and Ezren (the last three sequentially), plus Seltyiel; then there's Balazar, Estra, Feiya, and Urgraz. Ezren and Estra are at least old (and have overly similar names...🤨), but Feiya?

(Respectively, the iconic Rogue, Sorcerer, Wizard, Eldritch Knight/Magus, Summoner, Spiritualist, Witch, and duergar Antipaladin.)

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endless-bunny · 8 months

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Pathfinder Iconics Comparison Part 5: Prestige Classes

[Part 1: Classes with Different Iconics] [Part 2: Core Classes] [Part 3: The Remaining PF2 Classes] [Part 4: Classes Who Got Demoted] [Part 6: Who's left?]

When we looked at Seltyiel the Magus back in part 2, I said that I would be looking at the prestige classes later, and I meant it. However, most of these aren't quite so interesting because, like the Antipaladin we looked at last time, they're not characters in the same way. These people have a consistent design between the two games, but I can't find any evidence that they exist as characters within the fiction of the game. None of them are even named (Seltyiel is just a special boy).

Prestige classes are different from regular classes in that you can't take levels in them from the start. Your character has to meet certain requirements before they're able to multiclass into a prestige class. For instance, to be an Eldritch Knight (Seltyiel's class) you need to be able to cast spells and use some weapons and armour. Prestige classes are very powerful, and offer abilities that you can't find on a standard class, but their steep requirements mean you have to work hard to earn them. They also don't have a 20-level progression like standard classes do, instead having usually about 10 levels, with a really powerful capstone ability at 10th level.

PF2 doesn't have Prestige classes because it doesn't have multiclassing in the same way. In PF2, you don't take levels in a class, instead multiclassing is done with "archetype dedication feats", which you can take in place of a feat that you would receive from your class. Archetypes can be pretty broad or very narrow, and they can have prerequisites in the same way that Prestige classes do, so a lot of the Prestige classes from PF1 found their way into PF2 as archetypes.

There are so many prestige classes in PF1, and so many archetypes in PF2. While many of them come from mainline sourcebooks, others come from adventure modules or setting books. Archives of Nethys keeps a comprehensive list of both Prestige classes and archetypes, but unlike with the main classes, none of them have images, so tracking down pictures to make comparisons between the two lists basically means obtaining all of the books. Most of these comparisons are therefore going to be from the Prestige classes presented in the PF1 Core Rulebook.

Arcane (Eldritch) Archer

The Arcane Archer in PF1 is known as the Eldritch Archer in PF2. One thing that I have noticed about some of the illustrations (that I didn't see fit to mention before) is that it looks like many of them have been flipped horizontally. The Arcane Archer holds his bow left-handed and has a book on his left hip; the Eldritch Archer holds his bow right-handed and has the book on his right hip. Ambidexterity is presumed in PF2 (in PF1 you had to pick one "main hand" and one "off hand" but you could be right- or left-handed as you pleased) but I think this is more likely a case of the illustration being flipped to help the flow of the page.

The armour has been (slightly) simplified between editions but all the important details are there. His belt has the book, the potion and the pouch, he's got the blue ribbons all over him, even his bow and arrow is pretty much identical. As you might guess from the name, the Arcane/Eldritch Archer can cast spells through their bow and arrow, and it even looks like he's casting the same spell between editions.

The Arcane Archer appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and the Eldritch Archer appears in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Assassin

As you'll see for most of the Prestige classes, the Assassin's attire and equipment is largely unchanged from PF1 to PF2. The long blades on his back are missing (or just hidden) but he still has his crossbow, off-hand sword, two daggers, a whip on his belt, and a trio of throwing knives. In PF2, he seems to have applied poison or something to his crossbow, but there are no major changes. He's upgraded his kneepads but this is obviously the same Orc (or possibly Half-Orc) Assassin we recognise.

The Assassin kind of bothered me in PF1. Two of the requirements for becoming one was that you had to 1. be evil, and 2. kill someone for no reason other than to become an assassin (i.e. no self-defence or other motive). While I imagine many assassins are evil, people who work for hire and have no scruples about taking down their prey, I think there's room for good assassins, the sort that will target the corrupt or tyrranical, seeing taking one life to spare many as a net good in a sort of utilitarian way.

The Assassin appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Dragon Disciple

While both Sorcerers and Barbarians can draw their power from the might of dragons, the Dragon Disciple takes this one step further, gradually taking on characteristics of the dragon as they advance in the class. Our Dragon Disciple has already grown wings, and scales are starting to take over his left arm.

Just like the Assassin, the outfit is largely unchanged. The design of the wings is slightly different, possibly to make them look more obviously draconic, and less diabolic. He's still got the wand/staff, a couple of scrolls, and a potion on his belt, and the red robe with the black sash is identical. I love the gold trim and embroidery on his red cloak, it's such a powerful look.

The Dragon Disciple appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Duelist

Sometimes, character development just means putting on a hat.

I think many of the simplifications to these characters' outfits are to do with the decrease in importance going from a Prestige Class, the pinnacle of achievement, to an Archetype, something that is fairly run-of-the-mill. That being said, with the exception of a bit of the embellishment on the bodice and guard of her sword, plus the fancy trim of her cape, it's all here, although she does seem to have lost her earrings. Her hat appears to have flipped, with the turned-up bit on the opposite side to the feather now.

She even has her off-hand weapon, although it's harder to see in her new design. Side note: I didn't realise until I was writing this post, but her scabbard is on her right-hand side, the same hand she uses to wield her sword. That's weird, right? Normally you wear your sword on your opposite hip so you can draw it more easily.

The Duelist appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Loremaster

Here's another change that I really love, but it's more for conceptual reasons. It's like he finished reading between editiones and is finally ready to spring into action. Arguably it's less indicative of the class, which is more thoughtful and contemplative than most combat classes, but I think the enormous book and scraps of parchment making up his overcoat really sell the studious scholar angle, even with the increased action of the shot. The PF2 version of the class doesn't actually get any unique combat abilities, it's all out-of-combat lore and knowledge skill stuff.

The Loremaster is a class that I like in theory but which I've never played. It's one of those Prestige Classes that is only for a specific style of game, and unfortunately I've never had an opportunity to play in a game where it would be appropriate. I do love the idea of being a grumpy old person covered in Post-It notes with pieces of arcane knowledge.

Like with most of the Core classes, I enjoy the increased vibrancy of the colours. I swear, I must be a magpie with how much I comment on liking the bright colours.

The Loremaster appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Shadowdancer

The Shadowdancer is the most obviously different of all the Prestige classes. It's still the same person, but the outfit is more of a thematic echo than a direct port. When I first saw her, I thought that the Shadowdancer hadn't changed very much at all, but the closer I looked the more details I realised were dramatically different.

The armour, especially on her legs, is sleeker and more streamlined. Her cape is blue now instead of black, and she's missing a number of the accoutrements that she had in her first iteration. She's also wielding different weapons, and the "shadow" part of Shadowdancer is more obvious, with all that spooky goop coming off her. Her belt is all new as well.

While Merisiel, the Iconic Rogue, was made to look more obviously non-human, the PF2 Shadowdancer has been given rounder, softer features, though she still has the pointed ears of an Elf. One of the design principles that Wayne Reynolds talked about in his video series with Erik Mona was that the non-human ancestries needed to be made more non-human. Rather than Elves just being "skinny humans with pointed ears", they wanted to make them obviously a different species but that doesn't super come across here. Maybe she's a Half-Elf?

The Shadowdancer appears in the Core Rulebook for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

Horizon Walker

This is a change that I really dislike. The Horizon Walker is a class that focusses on the exploration aspect of the game, their class features are about navigating the wilderness and discovering new frontiers. Combat was never a big thing for them, so the switch to this hyper-aggressive action pose doesn't really fit. It's like the change that hapened with the Loremaster, except I don't love it because there's not the same obvious continuity between the two.

I love the design of the Horizon Walker, they look like a proper adventurer. This is another one that possibly got flipped, judging by the order of items on their belt, and the skis switching shoulder. I lament the loss of those traditional bone snow goggles but I do think it's nice that we get to see their face now, even if they aren't pleased to see us.

The Horizon Walker appears in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF1, and in the Advanced Player's Guide for PF2.

The remaining Prestige Classes from the Core Rulebook and Advanced Player's Guide don't have equivalent archetypes in PF2. As for all the rest of them, unless and until I can find a comprehensive list with the accompanying illustrations, I'm not going to try. If I do, though, I'll post a part 7.

#pathfinder #pathfinder 2e #pf2e #ttrpg #role playing games #tabletop

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