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#Rhysand's abuse
nestaismommy · 10 months
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“What happened?” I got out, even though I wasn’t sure I truly wanted the answer. My memory was a dark blur of wild music.
Lucien drew back. “I don’t think you want to know.” I studied the few smudges on my waist, marks that looked like hands had held me.”
“I woke with vague shards of memories—of dancing between Rhysand’s legs”
“He had me dance until I was sick, and once I was done retching, told me to begin dancing again.”
“I spent my days sleeping off the faerie wine, dozing to escape the humiliation I endured.”
So, y’all telling me some people read this and thought “oh that’s hot.” “I’m gonna draw it.”
Really?
And then you call yourselves Feyre stans??
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bookishfeylin · 7 months
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Now that I think about it, Rhysand's abusive and controlling treatment of Feyre's pregnancy actually makes even more sense as a character development for him given abuse often intensifies/begins when women are pregnant
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anne-et · 1 year
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I just saw a post by @looseleaflettuce where your anon makes a super important comment:
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It was only after I read this that I realized. Amarantha is a harassers (and a female portrayed as villain) Iantha is a harassers (and a female portrayed as villain).
Why are only women harassers but men (Rhysand and Cassian) aren't portrayed as such too?
Not only did Rhysand harass Feyre in the first book, he also drugged and manipulated her the entire time (and has clear signs of being Gaslighting).
Cassian I don't think I need to say anything. The guy is toxic as fuck, you can see it in ACOSF.
When women are not harassing, they are hypersexualized.
Morrigan, Nesta (my god all the time), even Feyre sometimes.
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littlefeltsparrow · 3 days
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I think the way Sarah J Maas depicts Tamlin’s abusive traits are indicative of the simplistic understanding she has when it comes to depictions of abuse. Even when the text views Tamlin as irredeemable for his actions, it still strangely gives him an out by bringing magic into it. By having his magical outbursts be involuntary (and have little evidence to challenge that notion) she makes abuse seem like the accidental result of uncontrollable emotion as opposed to deliberate tactics of control.
This is why she can’t clock the irony of Rhysand presenting a compelling case of covert abuse, because she doesn’t have the imagination to consciously write an emotionally abusive or controlling dynamic.
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thetwistedbeauty · 8 months
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Daily reminder that we’ve only seen two evil people in the CoN. So why do so many people slander the people in Hewn city when we’ve only seen Kier and HEARD of Lord Thanatos…but Morrigan and everyone else in the Inner Circle hates them so we have to hate them as well? The same men and women who are continuously being abused but Rhysand can’t do anything because?? What is Rhysand the High Lord of? It’s not the Illryian war camps and it’s not Hewn city so it’s Velaris and he doesn’t tithe people from Velaris but how would he have money then? How much you wanna bet that the war camps and Hewn city pay those tithes because they’re apparently so evil and deserve to suffer and Rhysand can’t do anything to help the men and women because well we don’t know because JUST KNOW it’s for a good reason.
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thatpurpledudetrey · 3 months
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nesta literally telling feyre that shes going to fucking died from the babe in an unpleasant way is literally just an argumental point for rhys stans to use to cover up the fact he LITERALLY hide a medical information from feyre?!?!?!? bro HE was the on who started this shit not fucking nesta????
it was rhysand's fault, he started this shit by being a stupid bitch who decided to not tell feyre
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feyres-divorce-lawyer · 6 months
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“tamlin was abusive in acomaf” yes he was
“rhys is so much better” well rhys is abusive as well, and his abuse of feyre is ongoing because they’re still in a relationship
“nooo rhys has reasons” so did tamlin
“no he didn’t, tamlin is just an evil person, he locked feyre up” because he was reasonably scared for her safety. feyre has a penchant for charging headfirst into dangerous situations, and her physical and mental state in acomaf meant she was extremely vulnerable. he was going to the western coast, the coast closest to hybern; hybern who was hunting for feyre. she likely would’ve followed tamlin with no care for her safety. regardless of his reasons, what tamlin did is still abusive
“you’re an abuse apologist” so are you. takes one to know one, i guess
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foxcort · 6 months
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thinking about wasted rhysand potential and how feyre deserves so much better after that last post
like, imagine a rhysand that worked behind amarantha's back, a rhysand that fights tooth and nail for the illyrians, who knows when to rein in his anger when confronted with keir and who works in the shadows with azriel to save the other dreamers in CoN. imagine a rhysand that uplifts mor, who stands by her side and prohibits keir and eris from being in her presence because he knows how it would make her feel, alliances be damned. imagine a rhysand that regrets the tattoo deal, regrets that his relationship with feyre started in a forced way and for that same reason feels guilty when he realizes she's his mate (and i mean genuinely guilty, not guilty but he apologized so its okay. like guilty so he refuses to accept it because he doesn't think he's worth her forgiveness). or a rhysand that refuses to dress feyre up in gossamer, or give her a drink he knows will lower her awareness, a rhysand that can control his jealously and anger enough not to inflict such trauma on a nineteen year old human girl. imagine he'd protected her UTM, shielded her from prying eyes and found every excuse to steer her out of amarantha's attention.
and like i get that he had to seem villainous at first because that's sjm's whole thing, but you can be a bad guy and not s*xually assault the love of your life at the same time. you can be morally grey and not force a nineteen year old girl into a binding permanent contract. someone made a good point in saying that the whole idea of a morally grey love interest is that they do questionable things to PROTECT their love interest, not TO their love interest. unfortunately rhysand is the latter.
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Rhysand to Feyre: I can never forgive anyone who hurt you
Also Rhysand: invades her privacy by continuously going inside her head without permission (and watching her through the tattoo without her consent), twists her already broken bone, forces her into a bargain, drugs and sa her for months while having her practically walk around naked in front of prythian night after night, kissing her without her consent, risking her life (when she's already depressed) with the weaver, dismissing what he did utm and never apologizing, manipulating her, involving himself in Feyre’s relationship with her sisters even though she told him not to repeatedly, sexualizing her in the CoN (there was literally no reason for that, he was just horny), not telling her about the pregnancy for MONTHS while telling everyone else, and once again taking away her power and right to choose
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whitedemon-ladydeath · 5 months
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so... which is it. the "concerned family" or the "political embarrassment" in terms of Nestas "rehabilitation" bec if it's the former the most Feyre is really able to do is what most families do which is provide emotional, and maybe, financial support or cut her off and let her figure it out on her own. if it's the latter, they abused their power as the rulers of the area towards a citizen by displacing her and demolished her home and lied about their laws in order to get her in line so like
which is it? concerned family or abusive politicians? can't be both bec of the gross power imbalance and implications put in place. they Cannot remove her from her home as a "part of her family". it's well known rehab only works if it's your choice. and it wasn't her choice considering the alternative was to be hunted for sport and killed in the human lands
they could have let Nesta keep her apartment and still work in the library. they could have cut off her tab and stopped paying for shit. they could have asked her what she needed. they could have met her half way (ELAIN) and met with her where she requested. they could have not bribed her with attending parties where it was obvious ppl didn't like her. Feyre and Elain could have had their own intervention without any of the IC members present to discuss their concerns with Nesta and how much they love and worry for her
but none of that happened
Rhys may be her "brother in law" but the actions he took were as a high lord. Feyre may be her sister, but her actions were that of a high lady. it was all around an abuse of power and just bec "she deserved it" (@nesta antis) does not mean she deserved to have political abuse held over her (that is quite literally so disgusting like LOL Tamlin used his power as HL to be able to keep Feyre trapped in his house so 👀)
If yall think Rhys abusing political power over Nesta is handy dandy and okay then yall should admit that Rhys routinely abuses his power for his own sake and his own wants and is Not the world's bestest high lord ever
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nestaismommy · 11 months
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Hey, let’s read about how Feyre’s actions are her own and that she chose to drink the wine:
“Wine?” he said, offering me a goblet.
Alis’s first rule. I shook my head.
He smiled, and extended the goblet again. “Drink. You’ll need it.”
Drink, my mind echoed, and my fingers stirred, moving toward the goblet. No. No, Alis said not to drink the wine here—wine that was different from that joyous, freeing solstice wine. “No,” I said, and some faeries who were watching us from a safe distance chuckled.
“Drink,” he said, and my traitorous fingers latched onto the goblet.
So obviously it wasn’t Rhysand mind controlling her or anything, clearly Feyre is making her own choices even though she kept saying no!! Therefore, obviously Rhysand was kidding when he admitted he made her do all of it with tears running down his cheeks!!
“I made you dress like that so Amarantha wouldn’t suspect, and made you drink the wine so you would not remember the nightly horrors in that mountain.”
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bookishfeylin · 7 months
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Was the tamlin and rhys are similar reblog about people who are saying Rhys groomed Feyre (due to their age difference) because then this will apply to Tamlin as well and... age gap in fantasy series shouldn't be made an issue at all because then pretty much everyone is a groomer or a pedophile. Rhys has other shitty traits but I don't like it when people bring the age up coz then Tamlin was older than her by centuries too, took her away from her home by the sole purpose of making her fall in love (although there were other older women who'd killed the wolves), and etc etc. Like yes discuss other toxic aspects of Rhys and feyre's relationship but I feel like age gap discussion can be used against feylin too so it's better to not touch that.
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No none of my reblogs were about that but it bears repeating that my opinion here is that I PERSONALLY do not judge book 1 Feylin because they are a retelling of a fairytale that is… iffy at best and my stance on this blog is, if you ARE going to judge Feylin and talk about abuse and domestic violence fine—Because yeah a BATB retelling with fae is not gonna be perfectly healthy in any universe—BUT Feysand should be held to the same standards because they’re no better, especially given Sarah *WAS NOT* trying to promote Feylin as peak relationship healthiness™️ but merely as the fae BATB romance it is while Feysand *IS* promoted as peak relationship healthiness™️ despite not being healthy by any stretch of the imagination.
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littlefeltsparrow · 3 days
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There’s a problem with the way Sarah J Maas depicts physical abuse/intimidation in ACOTAR
The fact that Tamlin’s physical abuse of Feyre being communicated through a magical/emotional outburst is problematic in the sense that it undercuts the reason why abuse happens. Incorporating magical concepts into a portrayal of domestic violence muddles the issue at hand and makes the abuse an accidental consequence of involuntary magical impulses as opposed to a deliberate tactic of intimidation and control. This issue is exacerbated by the fact that Feyre too, experiences an uncontrollable magical/emotional outburst during the High Lords meeting due to Beron’s provocative remarks. To be clear, I don’t view Tamlin as detestable or as an irredeemable abuser, but the text very much does. What I want to comment on is the problematic framing of Tamlin’s actions that are meant to characterize him as an abusive partner to Feyre.
So, I’m going to compare and contrast a scene from ACOMAF with a scene from ACOWAR, both of which depict magical outbursts that are brought on by intense emotional stress or rage.
ACOMAF
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Here, Feyre objects to Tamlin’s protective measures he had enacted earlier. She expresses how suffocated she feels and how she wishes that she had the breathing room to cope with her new reality and that Tamlin’s actions are making her suffer. Furthermore, Feyre introduces her doubt in their engagement and expresses her reservations. Tamlin then goes blank, reacting explosively with his power blowing the room into splinters.
This is a good first step towards characterizing Tamlin as an abusive partner (despite the leaps it took to get there) But, where it goes wrong is the emphasis the text puts on Tamlin's blank expression and subsequent magical response. He loses control momentarily, but the issue about this portrayal is that abuse is not "losing control" or accidental, it is a conscious decision made by the abuser. But here, Maas makes it seem as though Tamlin really was not in control, that the heightened emotions made him react that way.
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It gives Tamlin an out and consequently undercuts the message Maas is trying to communicate. Bringing magic into the scene takes away Tamlin's agency and removes a portion of his culpability in harming Feyre.
This scene should not have been Tamlin simply losing control of his temper, if Maas wanted to enhance her abuse narrative, she should have taken Tamlin’s temper and had him weaponize it. Intimidation is a possibility, one that would work towards making Feyre feel scared about voicing ver true feelings on their relationship. But Maas doesn’t go all the way, she doesn’t lean into that interpretation and instead plays it straight.
This is also undercut by Tamlin's second magical outburst in ACOWAR. Feyre intentionally provoking him does nothing for Maas's abuse narrative and actively undermines it by strengthening the idea that Tamlin's destructive outbursts really were caused by overwhelming emotions. Once again, it gives Tamlin a way out and dilutes the message.
The notion of an involuntary magical outburst is applied again in ACOWAR
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Beron’s inflammatory remarks provoke an immediate reaction from Feyre, she goes blank so to speak, and can no longer focus due to the intensity of her emotions. This manifests in a fiery outburst that throws the meeting into disarray and injures the Lady of Autumn accidentally.
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She’s so angry that she can’t think straight or logically, and it manifests in an attack. Though this isn't exactly the same, Feyre's "blinding fury" is so powerful that it cannot be restrained and ends up harming an innocent party. This moment strengthens the case for magic manifesting strong emotions as external attacks, characterizing it to some extent as involuntary.
Ultimately, the magical element removes the agency of the individuals in question. It frames their violence not as a conscious act designed to inspire fear, but as a genuinely accidental reaction to intense emotions. This is why the "Tamlin is an evil abuser" narrative is so weak. Because it dilutes the severity of the violence and makes it seem as though these kinds of emotional outbursts are an element of possessing magical powers. It gestures at a larger issue of Maas picking and choosing when and where she wants to apply real-world standards to her characters' morality. It makes events less believable and hypocritical, making allowances for certain characters, but condemning others without adequate narrative set-up.
This is why Maas is fundamentally incapable of recognizing the abusive dynamic she constructs with Feysand. It is a combination of double standards, authorial bias and a misunderstanding of how abuse manifests.
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praetorqueenreyna · 1 year
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It's wild how Tamlin gets so much shit for bringing back the Tithe (which is literally just. feudalism.) after his kingdom has been decimated from the past 50 years.
But there's never any alternative explanation for how the High Lords in other Courts are able to maintain their lavish lifestyles.
Like. Okay fine, Feyre can criticize Tamlin for having his subjects pay taxes. What are the alternatives? How does Rhysand purchase his five mansions and hire the staff to maintain them? How does Rhysand buy expensive clothing, food, and weapons for himself and the IC? Mor goes out drinking and partying every night, who fronts the bill?
And HONESTLY normally I wouldn't care because these are fluffy fantasy books, I never would EXPECT serious worldbuilding from them. But THE AUTHOR BROUGHT IT UP! If you're going to criticize one character for doing something a certain way, there need to be viable alternatives.
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andramoreaux · 7 months
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Sometimes I think about how there are people I'm Hewn City who have never seen the sun or what's outside, and it just makes me so sad. Imagine living for centuries but never getting to see the sun, to see trees and nature and grass and birds and certain animals or taste fresh air.
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fourteentrout · 1 month
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I honestly think that the ACOTAR series and it's characters are more complicated than fans give it credit for. Like a lot of fantasy readers in the modern age of booktok and all that shit always seem to crave a morally gray character, but when a character is actually morally gray they sort of...don't acknowledge it?
Because pretty much every single character in that series except for the obvious villains (Amarantha, king of hybern) are morally gray. Including Tamlin.
He's a really interesting case because he has these abusive behaviors, this consistent like Giving Up where he just heeds to his anger and his powers, but his entire driving force is that he doesn't want to be like his cruel, murderous father. Like, his essential action as a character is in direct conflict with his base characteristics, like isn't that so interesting??? But he's always just chalked up to the abusive anger issues ex who doesn't deserve any more chances because he already gave so many up. Like...do people know that even if a character is a Bad Guy, like a real bad guy, not your charming, suave, comedic villain bad guy, but like a guy who's fucked up and broken and mean and sad, can still be a compelling, multi-dimensional character?
And Rhysand. He's a super interesting character because though his intentions all come from the same place of like striving for peace and unity and other virtuous shit like that, he's still willing to overwrite his OWN MORALS if it means working towards getting what he wants--remember when he left a head in Tamlin's garden? I had totally forgotten about that because he never really exhibited any behavior that matched that, but if we think about it it was pointing to this facet of his character where, at least a the start of the series, he was willing to do a lot of fucked up shit for the greater good.
Which is like the definition of a morally gray character. But when comparing the two, often he's just taken as The Better One who can do no wrong and like rose above his role in society and would Never Ever treat Feyre like an object...which...he kind of did? Obviously not to the same level as Tamlin, or in the same way, but like for a lot of the beginning of ACoMaF he was pretty much Also using her as a piece in his personal war effort that he like didn't really fully inform her about for like...kind of a while.
Idk I know I'm rambling, sorry this is so long, but like I could make an entire other post about how FEYRE is ALSO super morally gray and like a lot of the point of her character is that she's like kinda fucked up and does fucked up things and has a lot of healing to do and makes mistakes even when she's still in the active process of like getting better, like the whole essence of her is that she's Not perfect, not that people don't get that, just that it's interesting that people will uphold these characters, her and Rhysand and the whole inner circle, and praise them and love them unconditionally, but when it comes to characters like Tamlin, they are deemed undeserving of a second chance because the bad shit they did was a) done to the main character(s) and b) magnified much more than the protagonists misgivings. Idk it's super early, I'm just rambling, I'm sorry
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