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zylice · 4 months
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If Marvel drops the Multiverse and ‘He Who Remains’ storyline, then Loki would have been butchered in vain and his sacrifice and power up for nothing. The ‘Loki’ series completely wasted all Loki’s potential unless they can somehow utilise him later on. 😪
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I get so freaking sick of casual regular Marvel fans or hardcore Marvel fans and ones who call themselves "Loki stans" constantly calling Loki a narcissist just because the show said so. Please try to actual read & educate yourself on what narcissism really is instead of blindly misusing psychological terms like there some sort of fancy buzzwords. Loki is NOT a narcissist nor has he ever been one, those that say otherwise have either misinterpret Loki character altogether or only take in things they consume at surface level face value or failed to understand what nuance is. If anyone a narcissist in Loki life it would be largely Odin, who is a good example of a narcissistic parent who so obviously favor Thor over Loki & how Loki was & still is a scapegoat due to said narcissistic hypocritical parenting on Odin part. Really if I have to hear another MCU person mislabel Loki as a "Narcissist" I swear I'll eat my own hair.
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'Loki' Head Writer on Season 2 Finale and MCU Future (esquire.com)
I think this more than enough proof how unsalvable this entire series always was going to be. Because they made the TVA fascists, they were based off of 1984 and had straight up nazi coding. Remember all the art promotion? But then they honestly call Mobius someone who's like a company man, who sometimes breaks the rules, but really he just wants to live his life. Mobius was a fascist for hundreds of years and never spared a single person or even tried thinking of another way. I don't understand how some can be so unaware of what they've written.
Oof, that interview was painful to read.
The bit about Mobius just comes to prove these people don't understand the ramifications of the stuff they have written. We saw Mobius as that "company man" in S1 and I have no idea what they have done with him in S2, but if he didn't have his own beliefs challenged then this character is in the exact same spot as the first S1 episode.
Most of the time, these writers keep moving their characters from one place to another but when it comes to characterization, they always end up the same way they started. The character is taken from point A to B but... has said character really learnt anything about themselves? Or are they just going through the motions, reacting to stuff happening to them and taking on roles that don't ever develop their own personal story?
Mobius is never challenged, he was a company man who in his own words didn't get hung up on "believe, not believe", he just "accepted what is" - which basically means he took everything the TVA said to him as the absolute truth - so he NEEDS to have those beliefs challenged. He has to be written as someone who feels guilt, regret, remorse, who understands his role in the machine, and who is changed by the story. But the writers never did that because it wasn't in their plans to tell a story against the TVA - as Wright said, the TVA is their Shield. They're the good guys! 🤦‍♀️
Now, what Martin says about Loki: "The big idea was taking Loki from a lowercase-g god, to a capital-G God" is slightly insulting. Loki IS a God. But the rest is even worse: "[...] he gets his throne—but it's not a throne he wants anymore. This is a duty. He's doing this so everyone else can have their lives. He's giving up the thing that he wants most so that everyone else can have their free will."
So, that's basically the worst possible story you could tell about him? He "gives up" what he wants most? So this is yet another case where Loki doesn't get what he wants? He gets a throne, that he never wanted in the first place and we've known that since Thor1, and he has to sacrifice himself, his life, his future, his needs... so that everybody else can have their lives? It's a confirmation of this...
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I don't know what to tell you. As a Loki fan that is not what I wanted to see. I haven't watched S2 so I have no idea if he takes on that role willingly or not, but this is Loki sacrificing himself yet again while those who did A LOT more damage than he ever did get away with it scot-free. And probably even the TVA is saved and protected and not burnt to the ground, right? Ugh.
Oh, and there's one more thing that blows my mind in that interview. This part:
Q: On a macro level, where would you say Loki Season Two fits in within the overall Marvel story? Eric Martin: "I actually don't know what the overall story is going to be. Things are so siloed off."
Marvel should be telling the head writers of their series what the overall story is. The MCU is supposed to be a "connected" universe. It doesn't surprise me that the latest phases are all over the place when these people have no idea what the main story is.
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raifenlf · 2 years
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Looking at Gamestop's website last night and I noticed something interesting.
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The Loki TV series version of the "Lady Loki" character in Sylvie's action figure is on clearance and selling at a cheaper price than other action figures. If you look up a couple rows, you might notice the one at the very top is the real and true Loki in feminine form, the Marvel Legends Series Loki Agent of Asgard figure. This action figure is more expensive than Sylvie's action figure and is not on clearance. Interesting...
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paanchusblog · 2 years
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Loki fans have become so pathetic at this point. We are now celebrating for the bare minimum... For an average looking Coat!! 🤣🤣 Mean while Moonknight, WandaVision and FATWS had some of the best costumes.
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fortnite-loki · 2 years
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For the slander fandom 😌
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chaoticace22 · 5 months
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do you know that thing when you open up tumblr and feel deep confusion?
ps. it's just a meme pls don't come after me
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shambelle97 · 5 months
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LOKI SERIES - SEASON 2 / NOMINATION CRITICS CHOICE AWARDS (2023)
Congratulations to cast and crew of Marvel Studios’ Loki on their four Critics Choice Awards TV Nominations including Best Drama Series, Best Actor in a Drama Series – Tom Hiddleston, Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series – Sophia Di Martino, and Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series – Ke Huy Quan. #CriticsChoice
Pics by: marvelstudios
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kateslife15 · 1 month
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Tom Hiddleston at critics choice awards talking about Loki!!!
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zylice · 5 months
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Me and my mother have many problems with the ‘Loki’ series but we’ve always had a soft spot for Tom and Loki and could see through the cracks of what they were trying to do. We watched the S2 finale and it really touched me that despite us noticing how botched it was.
We saw through the cracks of what they were trying to do and despite us being disgusted by how S1 treated the character of Loki and how it ended, it really touched me how she rooted for Tom to get his character back throughout season 2. He didn’t really except for a few occasions but she cared for and rooted for him anyway. 😊
It warmed my heart knowing that she always rooted for him and thought it was really cool when he used magic for the few times that he did despite him being ‘out of character’ throughout. The show was all over the place yet we stuck through what was very slow paced and sloppily.
Produced product at times. Despite some awkward and cringeworthy bits, we sat through it to see what would happen and they FINALLY gave Loki the power up he deserved and gave Tom some justice instead of being overshadowed by other characters and plot points throughout.
Basically. If my mother is willing to return to something she really didn’t like (S1) and sit through MORE of something that is ‘boring,’ ‘slow-paced’ or ‘poorly produced,’ then she MUST care about the character/actor despite being bored easily. If it was ANYTHING else, she wouldn’t have bothered at all.
She has MANY other things she could have been doing or watched (let alone going through difficult irl stuff) she STILL made the time despite not liking it much previously to see what would happen to the character/actor I thought she ‘gave up on’ after her previous disappointment.
Summing it up: I’m proud of her for giving Tom another chance despite her ‘blaming him’ for ‘ruining his own character’ last
time. It proved to me that she still cared enough to see something through that she didn’t enjoy for HIM. I care a lot about her opinions and Tom and am truly warmed that she still truly has a soft spot for him despite her massive disappointment.😌 She always liked the character of Loki before the series yet slogged through anyway to see his big power up moment! I find it even more touching that she still tried to defend it even know we both know it’s shit just because she has such a soft spot for Tom and Loki! She said that the show could have been ‘terrific’ if it had better producers! ❤️‍🩹😭🥲🥹💚🐍🙌✨💫🌳
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Seeing some of the leaks from season 2 Loki just reaffirms me on why I’m  glad I’ve lost total hope also interest in the show all over again.  Witnessing a couple of the shots and photos of Tom within the TVA suit , with him at a 70s McDonalds setting which will most likely be used as a Ha Ha! So funny ‘joke’ scene of Loki wondering what the hell is a McDonald and probably having Mobius explain it to him  during said scene. Trying to play up the “ fish out of water “ type humor which was done already in Thor 2011 with having Thor being on Midgard  & acting like how he would on Asgard,  but really seeing these leaks along with this scene still in the works...I felt like I was watching less of Loki the elegant but lethal prince, the God of mischief , and more of Larry from accounting firm.    I just feel that this season 2 will be more of a mess than the first season as well as continuing the sterilization of Loki entire character in the progress.       
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raviosprovidence · 1 year
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listen i love my little anti this anti that curated tags and shit but isn't it fucked up that we HAVE to have a completely separate tag for criticizing media and any sort of criticism in the more general sense gets completely shat on? I get having your own curated internet space and all but i don't think seeing criticism of your favorite show is gonna be the end of the world. I dare even say it might widen your horizons.
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magpie-murder · 5 months
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i can't be the only one who's noticed just how fucked up the concept of loki joining the tva is, right? i personally haven't seen anyone talk about this but it's one of the main things that makes me so uncomfortable about the show.
like, let me describe this without using any of the language that the series does;
a secret police dedicated to killing entire groups of people "for the greater good," one day picks up a man from one of these groups and tells him that if he doesn't help them catch the person who is trying to take them down, they will straight up kill him.
he is then given a coat to wear, branded with the secret police's logo, as well as clarification in huge red letters that he is NOT one of the secret police— he is part of the group the secret police kills.
this secret police is marketed as morally gray, and the company who makes the show releases merch for you to dress up as the secret police (or as the group that they kill) for fun because they want you to think this is cute and aesthetic.
and also the secret police uses gas chambers.
oh and also also, people draw cutesy ship art of this man and the "good cop" cuddling, while the man is clearly labeled and wearing a bland jumpsuit that the secret police forces him to wear.
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dkmbookworm · 1 year
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Something that really pisses me off is this assumption that because you dislike the current direction with Loki and Thor’s characters, it must mean that you “hate comedy” and “want everything to be serious and gloomy”. As if the only form of comedy that exists is weird, random antics. What is this attitude that thor and loki were never funny in the previous films? The only difference is that the comedy was formed based on their personalities and conflicts with other people or situations, rather than just them being stupid or quirky.
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worstloki · 6 months
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AU where Loki doesn’t interfere with Thor’s banishment at all and it takes Thor years to prove himself worthy and when he returns to Asgard everything is just. The same. Nothing seems to have changed at all and everyone greets him like his absence was a minor obstacle that didn’t fundamentally change Thor and the worst part is Loki stepped down from the place as regent without any delay and Thor can’t help but feel there’s something underlaying the way his brother looks at him now and won’t let him touch him and Thor doesn’t know what he could have missed because he doesn’t think he would have found anything wrong with the things around him and how everyone behaves if he hadn’t spent time on Earth reflecting.
#the warriors 4 not being interested in anything Thor ‘learnt’ at all#and making it clear that Thor was punished unfairly and the AllFather’s decision had been harsh#Loki saying he’s happy for Thor and Thor sees the way the smiles are forced and he sees the way Loki avoids any touch#Thor hating the way Frigga talks about Loki’s short regency and Thor’s absence like it wasn’t two whole decades or something#like she’s so grateful to have her other son back without ever addressing why he was gone#Thor just. growing during his time on earth and being much more aware of the behaviour around him#he learns to be critical and assess why people around him may act a certain way#once he realises that it’s possible for him or anyone else to be fallible and make mistakes it’s over for Asgard for him I think#Thor returns and Loki gives him the throne and everyone expects him to obviously have the throne#and Odin is sleeping and Thor isn’t comfortable with the way everyone accepts him as king regent after the banishment#Loki who either never lashed out against Jotunheim or did and it was brushed away and no one thinks about it as anything#but Loki is still deeply affected and acts the way he always would have but Thor can feel it’s not the same#he knows something is wrong and Loki won’t say anything about it and Thor doesn’t know how to bring it up#Thor sees Loki metaphorically receding into the shadows to become a nonpresence so loud Thor hears it even after returning from decades away#Thor goes to Earth and gets his priorities in order gets a new worldview learns not to take what he has for granted#and finds out he actually despised Asgard#he’s been back a week and he can’t stand it
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2023 art roundup! Vax has slowly been sneaking more and more into the mix with the Lokis, and I’m not mad about it. The last two pieces are two of my favourites that I’ve ever done!
Prints here!
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