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changing-my-username · 2 months
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This guy's as trustworthy as a Liberal Democrat
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dadsinsuits · 1 year
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Lindsay Hoyle
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badkruka · 1 year
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Aww look at him
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and now, Crim Reacts on Discord to the Past Two Days in Politics.
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(in order: the cabinet resignations 1, 2 and 3, pmqs 4 and 5, more resignations 6 and 7 stuck in the waiting room at the dentist's during liaisons.)
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ianchisnall · 2 months
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MPs set to debate new rules on whistleblowers
The plans for today and this week in Parliament only indicate one contribution from a Sussex MP which is happening this afternoon. The Public Accounts Committee which includes Jeremy Quin discussing the theme “Investigation into whistleblowing in the civil service”. The committee is responding to the National Audit Office (NAO) which published an article in February this year describing it as…
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mounadiloun · 2 months
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Un débat sur Gaza provoque une crise parlementaire au Royaume Uni
La situation en Palestine, à Gaza précisément, est à l’origine d’une sérieuse crise politique au Royaume Uni. En effet, en sa qualité de parti d’opposition et troisième force politique représentée à la House of Commons, l’équivalent de l’Assemblée Nationale française, le Parti National Ecossais bénéficie de «fenêtres» parlementaires qui lui permettent de soumettre des textes au vote. Et le parti…
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laestacionlatina · 2 months
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El manejo de la votación de Gaza por parte del presidente de la Cámara de Representantes es muy preocupante, dice Rishi Sunak
El primer ministro, Rishi Sunak, dijo que la decisión de Sir Lindsay Hoyle de apartarse de la convención durante un debate sobre el conflicto de Gaza era “muy preocupante”. El presidente de la Cámara de los Comunes se enfrenta a presiones para que renuncie, después de escenas caóticas en el Parlamento y un debate enconado. Sir Lindsay se disculpó por dar a los diputados un voto sobre una…
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chinemagazine · 7 months
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L'ambassadeur chinois interdit d'entrer au Parlement britannique
Le président de la chambre basse a déclaré ne pas vouloir rencontrer l'ambassadeur de Chine au sein du Parlement britannique
Lindsay Hoyle, président de la chambre basse du Parlement britannique à Londres, a déclaré ne pas vouloir rencontrer l’ambassadeur de Chine, après les sanctions imposées par la Chine à neuf personnalités britanniques, en mars 2023. «Je ne pense pas qu’il soit approprié de rencontrer l’ambassadeur de Chine sur le domaine des communes et sur notre lieu de travail alors que son pays a imposé des…
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tomorrowusa · 1 year
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President Volodymyr Zelenskyy is in Western Europe to make the case for military jets to shoot down Russian missiles and deter any new aggression by Putin’s army.
His first stop was London where he was well received.
In a historic address to members of the Commons and the Lords at Westminster Hall, Zelenskiy made the call in a speech lavishing praise on Britain’s leadership in the world, and was immediately backed by Zelenskiy’s firmest British ally, Boris Johnson.
The former prime minister said: “It is time to give Ukraine the extra equipment they need to defeat Putin and bring peace to Ukraine.’’ He said “the best single use of the 100 Typhoon planes in the UK’s possession is to deploy them now for the protection of Ukraine”, adding, “the faster we do it the better”.
At a joint press conference with Zelenskiy after reviewing the training of Ukrainian troops on a Challenger 2 tank simulator in Dorset, Sunak said “nothing was off the table”. The prime minister said the UK provision of planes was “part of the conversation” but that the very immediate need was for longer-range missiles and tanks, something the UK was providing and showing global leadership.
Zelenskyy presented a pilot’s helmet with an inscription from Ukraine’s top gun to House of Commons Speaker Sir Lindsay Hoyle.
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He was also invited to Buckingham Palace where he met King Charles III.
King Charles Hosts Ukraine's President Zelenskyy at Buckingham Palace During Surprise Visit to the U.K.
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And late Wednesday he arrived in Paris where he met with President Emmanuel Macron and German Chancellor Olaf Scholz.
Ukraine updates: Macron, Scholz meet Zelenskyy in Paris
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^^^ Putin would probably be afraid these days to enter a room with a guard holding a real sword.
The only way this war will end for sure is with a clear Russian defeat. So give Ukraine everything it needs (except nukes) to drive out the invaders. The world will be a safer place when Russia starts acting like a normal 21st century country.
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technodabhi · 2 years
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UK government drops bid to delay decision on investigation into PM Boris Johnson
UK government drops bid to delay decision on investigation into PM Boris Johnson
LONDON: The British government will not move its proposed amendment to delay a decision over whether Prime Minister Boris Johnson should be investigated over accusations he misled parliament about breaches of Covid-19 rules, parliament’s speaker said. “I understand it is now the intention of the government not to move that amendment,” House of Commons speaker Lindsay Hoyle told lawmakers on…
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dadsinsuits · 1 year
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obaewankenope · 2 months
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Seeing the stuff about the SNP and Labour and Conservatives and how SIR Lindsay Hoyle is being targeted by everyone because, as he stated, he tried to provide a variety of options for MPs to vote ammendments on because he'd had a meeting with police that same day about threats to MPs safety... And he's a well known person for caring about the safety of his fellows in the House... And like, the whole thing is just a mess.
Convention is not law.
By tabling a Labour Ammendment, SIR Lindsay Hoyle went against convention in the House, not law.
And conventions are gone against in the House, many many times, like, for example:
During a general election, the Speaker will stand for election in their constituency unopposed by the major parties. During the election, the Speaker will only campaign as a Speaker seeking re-election and not on any political points.[3]
This convention was not respected during the 1987 general election, when both the Labour Party and the Social Democratic Party fielded candidates against the Conservative speaker, Bernard Weatherill, who was MP for Croydon North East.
The Scottish National Party (SNP) does stand against the speaker if they represent a Scottish constituency, as was the case with Michael Martin, speaker from 2000 to 2009.[4]
The Speaker enjoys wide discretion to interpret the Standing Orders and relevance of precedent. They decide the procedure of the House.[1]
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Another "convention" which is well known for Conservatives to ignore, especially in recent years (looking at Boris fucking Johnson):
Any member that misleads Parliament is expected to resign.
[source: Wikipedia]
With accusations against Starmer and Labour being thrown by the SNP and Conservatives about pressuring etc, you have to remember that without the minutes being shared, OR an official statement in Parliament (where MPs aren't meant to lie or mislead Parliament) stating that Labour didn't do this, the SNP and Conservatives can and will keep throwing this accusation around.
But tabling an opposition ammendment as well as the government one to a motion is against convention but not against Parliamentary law.
I like convention to be followed but exceptions do get made, as we've seen in the past. Or changes to the conventions change to accommodate different circumstances:
The Prime Minister should be a member of either House of Parliament (between the 18th century and 1963).
By 1963 this convention had evolved to the effect that no Prime Minister should come from the House of Lords, due to the Lords' lack of democratic legitimacy. When the last Prime Minister peer, the Earl of Home, took office he renounced his peerage, and as Sir Alec Douglas-Home became an MP.
Another one:
All Cabinet members must be members of the Privy Council, since the cabinet is a committee of the council. Further, certain senior Loyal Opposition shadow cabinet members are also made Privy Counsellors, so that sensitive information may be shared with them "on Privy Council terms".
[source: Wikipedia]
Incidentally, we saw Labour Privy Counsellors not be given information recently by the Government about military actions against Houthis and there was some drama about that in the news and Parliament. Some argue convention was ignored there, others that it wasn't. But these aren't codified, written down laws or anything that Must Follow Exactly Every Step Exactly and so that means conventions have wiggle room.
Especially in special circumstances.
Personally, I've met SIR Lindsay Hoyle before and he's not a man who bows to pressure. He admits when he messes up, tries to not mess up again, and definitely learns from his mistakes. But he's a man who has been in Parliament for a long time, speaks with many MPs across all parties and has seen the rising hatred and violence aimed at MPs over the years get worse and worse.
The issue around Israel and Hamas and Palestine is messy and highly contentious with the public. Threats to MPs really are at an all time high. SIR Lindsay Hoyle is not a man who ignores danger to his colleagues. He's not a man who just lets things happen to avoid rocking the boat if he can do something to possibly protect his colleagues.
I get the anger of the SNP at their day being marred by a Labour Ammendment being added to the discussion alongside the Government but, honestly, this is more political games because I cannot imagine fora second that the SNP can see that Labour is still ahead of them in Scotland, especially with all the stuff that happened with Sturgeon and want to undermine them in an election year.
All I truly care about is one: treating SIR Lindsay Hoyle as a man who tries to do the right thing whenever he can (and owning up when he is wrong), two: getting the Conservatives out of power because we damn well need them out, and three: doing something about the issue in the Middle East because people are dying.
SIR Lindsay Hoyle has given the SNP an emergency motion debate to actually address that last point. That's more than other Speakers have done in the bloody past. Literally.
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the-busy-ghost · 2 years
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How does he fucking manage it
#Who the hell does he think he is#Yeah let's just block the debating of a motion of no confidence in the Prime Minister#A motion of no confidence the Tories were fully expected to win by the way#As usual the man in number 10 thinks he's above the rules and conventions that everybody else respects#And his team have found a loophole as ever so that he doesn't have to bother#The fucking GALL of the man#Nothing to gain except the further erosion of the conventions and traditions of British democracy#Or at least whatever passes for it nowadays#Unless they were really THAT scared of their own MPs voting against them#Tory whips say the motion fell outside normal convention because the PM was singled out#When exactly has this government EVER cared about convention#They are the poster children for 'Oh but it's not TECHNICALLY against the rules so it's OK'#Utterly blase#Call me old-fashioned but as much as I would like Scottish independence I think that those in Westminster#who claim to want to STAY in Westminster#Should observe the traditions and parliamentary conventions of that place#ESPECIALLY if their name is the 'conservative' party and they like to go on and on about British democracy#I could understand if they thought the rules needed changing but no they're just massive hypocrites who think the rules don't apply to them#Frankly disappointed that Lindsay Hoyle isn't hammering on the door of Number 10 with a horsewhip right now#But I suppose that wouldn't be in accordance with parliamentary convention either WHICH EVERYBODY ELSE HAS TO RESPECT#Except Boris apparently who thinks he's some kind of president#Government has way too much control over the house and its timetable but I understand that's the rules#However even if it IS their prerogative to deny time for the debate#Doesn't change the fact that if the Tories were (as thought) so likely to win the motion of no confidence#why have they been too cowardly to allow it to be debated#Chickens didn't want to be exposed as siding with Boris to their constituents but also wanted to stay in power
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ianchisnall · 4 months
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I wish all the best for Christmas and a peaceful new year?
It is fantastic that many MPs raised Christmas celebrations at the last few days of Parliament and on the last day on Tuesday several of them did so and one of them was Lindsay Hoyle who is the Speaker of the House of Commons and he stated here “Before I start questions, may I wish all Members and their families the best for Christmas and a peaceful new year? I thank all staff within the House…
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possil · 2 months
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APPEASMENT PAYS A PRICE
Fear In Parliament On Wednesday it came home to roost. What the public have known for years, Parliament has now experienced. We have witnessed the Speaker of the House breaking parliamentary convention because of security threats to MPs from Muslims. We cannot avoid the truth: MPs are in fear of Muslim mobs and are voting accordingly. The time for soft words is long gone and we must speak…
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