The crane wives this the crane wives that, Scar is Steady steady this
SCAR IS EL HIJO DE HERNÁNDEZ BY CUARTETO DE NOS. CAN ANYBODY HEAR ME.
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I keep thinking of that reply in my Odysseus/Agamemnon post about how I regard differently Odysseus' and Agamemnon's actions, while acknowledging that at times Agamemnon is written as a sweet man and Odysseus is always straight up shitty, and how it was taken as some sort of defense for Agamemnon and as a form of pointing out the double standard; and that wasn't at all what the post was about for me, even though I can see where they were coming from. To be honest, given I didn't imagine it would spread anywhere other than my own blog, I didn't explain myself very well (or at all).
The fact is that when I talked about Odysseus not caring about hurting someone else's child to start and end a war I was indeed comparing his actions to Agamemnon's, but my words about supporting Odysseus' wrongs and cheering him in his terrible actions, while in a joking tone, weren't entirely a joke. I do think that Odysseus does some very shitty acts, and some quite terrible ones depending on the sources. That's a fact, that he does is at the core of his characterisation and it's what makes him so much fun; but not even when he is at his most cruel does he harm his family, his own son. Agamemnon, while sweet and loving at times in some texts, at his worst is willing to sacrifice Iphigenia. When readers regard with more sympathy Odysseus over Agamemnon despite both being responsible for children dying, I don't think there's a double standard in this aspect at all considering it's never his own kid Odysseus harms. And that's the key, I think.
Odysseus and Agamemnon have very different priorities, a very different view on loyalty and duty. It could be said that Agamemnon acts out of selfishness, but it could also be read in a kinder light, saying that Agamemnon is ruled by the gods first, and by his role as head of the achaeans; Agamemnon is not entirely himself. In opposition we see Odysseus acting perhaps mainly for himself and his own family and men; yes, he is a king, but he has not the role Agamemnon has. As a consequence, Agamemnon submits his family's wellbeing to the war, to the gods, while Odysseus stops the plow before hurting Telemachus but is (depending on the source) the cause of Iphigenia's sacrifice and Astyanax's death.
Both Odysseus and Agamemnon have reasons to support their actions, and both can be sympathised with; it's fiction after all. When it comes to fiction, at the end of the day which character a reader is drawn to or sympathises with is mainly an issue of personal taste, but I suppose it also implies a certain level of one's own views or preferences on morals, what makes us find certain actions more justifiable, or tasteful (perhaps that's a more accurate word), than others. Agamemnon sacrificing his daughter, no matter how sympathetic or understandable the reason, generally sits worse on people than Odysseus doing the same with someone else's kids, because they're someone else's. This different emotional reaction they provoke has place not just metanarratively, but also inside the very story; it is narratively significant, given it determines how their arrival home plays out, how their wives react to them, and thus their futures. Ultimately it determines whether they live or die.
I think both terrible acts go in line wonderfully with each characterisation, showcasing the role they hold in their world, what they value, what they care for, what they're willing to sacrifice for themselves and the others, how much of their own they're willing to give and bend. While looking at the wider picture it could perhaps be drawn that Agamemnon is the better person out of the two, but Odysseus' selfish actions are perhaps easier to empathise with, especially from a modern viewpoint. Odysseus is treacherous and prone to betrayal, but not against his own; Agamemnon follows the rules of the gods. How fitting in that context that Odysseus doesn't die at the end of his story, that he cheats the death heroes so often are fated to, almost as if cheating the narrative itself, bending the rules of the world he is ascribed to; how fitting in the context of those texts that point towards Sisyphus being his father. But that's another topic, and I've already talked a lot.
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This song has been my OCD song for about 5 years. It's possibly the best lyrical example of how it feels to have a condition that literally makes you feel insane at times, how that craziness can, morbidly, be comforting because at least it feels like something you can control, and how despite this intensity, you're not going to stop fighting for freedom. Not until you're dead. It's both an understanding that it's a terrifying thing to go through, but hopeful and realistically optimistic
I remember when I lost my mind
There was something so pleasant about that place
Even your emotions have an echo in so much space
Yeah I was out of touch
but it wasn't because I didn't know enough
I just knew too much
Ha ha ha, bless your soul
You really think you're in control?
My héros had the heart to lose their lives out on a whim
And all I remember is thinking I want to be like them
Ever since I was little it looked like fun
It's no coincidence I've come
I can die when I'm done
Maybe I'm crazy
Maybe you're crazy
Maybe we're crazy
Probably
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hello, everyone. a little update.
we are feeling slightly better for now, but i think we will do some self indulgent edits first, before working on the requests in our ask box and opening requests again. luc made a lovely stimboard and i’m going to work on some wallpapers for us to use. thank you all for your patience and kind words.
also, we are happy to announce we have surpassed 100 followers! thank you all for the support, we can’t thank you enough. we will set up a raffle at some point in celebration, and perhaps do a moodboard specific event or something like that.
~ mod zhongli
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oh I am on That Part.
why is it always Zhuge Liang? and why does he still have his jaunty little fan???
See this could have been the perfect opportunity to put in some Shui Hu Zhuan rep. Wu Yong or Zhu Wu can easily be the strategist, and even Gongsun Sheng wouldn't be that much of a stretch since he is a spellcaster in the book.
but no we have to have Feather Fan Guy who already has too much attention :|
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