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longagoitwastuesday · 1 year

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I love the Goncharov meme conceptually. It feels like classic academia perhaps, definitely like studying ancient philosophy at times. You get a fragment (knockoff boots), a general context (Martin Scorsese films existing), and then a very long discussion about nothing starts. But the nothingness isn't entirely nothing, and there are still limits to what can and cannot be said framed by both the existence and non-existence of that which is being discussed. Hilarious, truly, and the fact itself so very interesting to analyse in so many ways.

#This feels a bit like studying and discussing presocratics or Socrate himself xD #ngl while I loved the boots thing (I had often thought about those knockoff boots‚ I found them hilarious)#I don't find the Goncharov memes particularly funny #But the concept is fascinating conceptually and thrilling to analyse in so many levels #The fact that almost every webwaving‚ even the ones about a fake film‚ have the same quotes #That basically everything said about this film is what is said about any other popular media #Is so interesting as how short media analysis falls into superficiality and miopic repetition of patterns #As is the fact that we can discuss to eternity something that doesn't exist #in a sort of Narcissus looking at his reflection on the pond situation‚ in love with our own discussion more than the thing itself #And that's a level. But it's also very interesting in how basically everyone has a very similar idea of what the film is about #How nothingness with sprinkles can tell us something‚ a lot‚ and make a ghost of a film which can effectively to some extent be analysed #It's also hilarious in how it puts a mirror‚ so to speak‚ in front of so many academic studies #How we've basically been doing this for centuries unironically and I'd say with at least a certain sense of self awareness #How this brings back studying and discussing the lost texts of Ovid or Sappho based just on what they say about them or the absence #in what they say about them‚ or what other authors say about them or how their works are wrapped around those lost texts #How it brings back the study and analysis of presocratics like Pythagoras or even Socrate himself of which we have Plato and Xenophon #but really something close to nothing considering how important those authors are as basis of the entire history of western philosophy #And yet there's honestly so much to say about them given the nothingness we have accompanied by the something!#And Goncharov memes work a bit that way #I don't know. There are really so many facets to this meme and they are all conceptually hilarious yes xD #Another but not less important aspect of this meme that I love conceptually is that #I'm a bit fan of funny lies. I adore them. Especially when constructed between several people #And Goncharov is precisely that lol #Goncharov #I talk too much #I should probably delete this later #Meme shit

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