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chicademartinica · 1 year
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Favorite romance trope : Necklace erotism
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absolutebl · 2 years
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10 BLs to Watch if You Loved KinnPorsche
It’s really hard for me to understand exactly why you liked a thing, anything, let alone a phenomena of pop culture. Also there is nothing exactly like KP. With those two codicils in mind, I will do my very best. 
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So here are 10 things I’m going to assume you are looking for. 
higher heat levels - things get steamy 
lower angst levels - external conflict (rather then internal agony and navel gazing) 
good chemistry (not the same thing as heat) - this means the actors are good at portraying physical, mental, and emotional attraction to each other
action
grey morality 
multiple couples 
mature characters
non-school setting
longer length treatment
a happy ending 
I do hope I’ve gotten it right. This BL list will be rated on a scale of #/10 KP rating system - one point for each of the above, half points allowed. (Which is NOT my normal BL rating system.) 
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Some things that I can’t really help you with: 
Explicitly kinky characters. There is very little of this in light BL (stories with happy endings) and what there is I’ve a listed here. 
Mafia or yakuza set dramas are more common in dark BL. There are a few exceptions, but none of them have the bodyguard trope of KP. 
Trigger warnings: assume if it happened in KP it may happen in these. including the stuff people argued over and disliked. Also dubcon and few others nasties. (Why so much dubcon in BL?)
Narrative structure. As you probably noticed in KP, strong story structure is not a hallmark of BL, but rather the exception. So far there have been only a few great strongly written high concept and killer narrative BLs. 
Let’s start, shall we? 
Loved KinnPorsche? Try These BLs Next
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1. Manner of Death 
(Thailand 2021) WeTV 
This is a gay romantic suspense featuring a doctor and a mafia character. It’s more a murder mystery investigation with multiple plot twists than a mafia romance, but it is tons of fun. It’s stars the Original Kings of BL IRL ships: MaxTul. Also two of the hottest bodies in BL. 
KP rating 9.5/10 
It has higher heat levels, low angst (there is no angst at all, really, these boys got other things to do), great chemistry, action, grey morality, multiple couples (kinda - this is where it flails at bit so I dinged it 1/2 a point), mature characters, a country + medical setting, longer length treatment AND a happy ending. 
What to watch next if this was your favorite off this list? Triage or Dear Doctor, I’m Coming for your Soul. 
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2. Trapped 
AKA HIStory 3: Trapped 
(Taiwan 2019) Viki 
Basically the definition of enemies to lovers. Is about a cop investigating a cold case where a mafia boss is the only witness, so he starts chasing him. Along the way to solving it, they fall in love. Side characters = mercenary hitman meets nerdy cop of his dreams, cooks for him. All the leads are stellar. It’s high heat, fun action, and a bit of a mystery drama but is pretty about all of it. My only warning is that the main couple doesn’t entirely end up together, it’s implied, but... amorphous ending. The sides end happily tho. 
KP rating 9.5/10 
Contains mature characters, non-school setting, higher heat, lower angst, great chemistry, action (some of it the SAME action, these two run through the woods hand-cuffed together for days too), grey morality, multiple couples, and a longer length - only the ending falters. 
You want HIStory 3: Trapped NOT the other HIStory 3! 
If you’ve been frustrated by the heat levels and setting of Thai BLs since KP, then that’s because you need to turn your attention to Taiwan instead. Taiwan specializes in high heat levels and non-school settings. (They have some, but it’s not their focus.) 
What to watch next if this was your favorite on this list: HIStory 2: Crossing the Line, DNA Says Love You, and you can explore the top 10 I talk about in my Taiwan’s history with the genre post. A warning, do not take Trapped as a typical example of HIStory franchise, it’s all over the place.  
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3. Long Time No See 
(Korea 2017) GaGa 
Long Time No See is about two assassins who fall in love via online gay fanfic without knowing they are hitmen on opposite sides of a turf war. Or do they? It’s absolutely great and very under appreciated. One of Strongberry’s few longer pieces (but still short by Thai BL standards) with good fight sequences and very suspenseful. 
KP rating 8/10 
Contains all KP elements except multiple couples and a longer length: mature characters, non-school setting, high heat, low angst, good chemistry, action, grey morality, and a happy ending.
What to watch next if this was your favorite on this list: Actually you might try some of Japan’s darker stuff, I’m thinking Double Mints, for example. 
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4. Not Me
(Thailand 2022) YouTube 
This is crime thriller BL-lite about a group of motorcycling malcontents bent on bring down a corrupt system. Overtly queer, the romantic threads are not entirely the narrative drivers and it’s very slender on tropes, making this one, like MoD more gay romantic suspense than BL. But if gritty tension is what you’re after, this one has that in spades. 
KP rating 7/10
It’s pretty low heat, this is OffGun+GMMTV and heat is not what they do. It has some angst because of the twin thing and the political thing (but not as much as I expected). The characters are not mature by my personal standards, they do act with the idealism of youth and they are in university some of the time. Otherwise ticks all the boxes: good chemistry, action, grey morality, multiple couples, longer length treatment, and a happy ending.
What to watch next if this was your favorite on this list: you can try OffGun’s back catalogue but it’s probably not what you’re looking for, try Bad Buddy instead and consider my favorite Thai BL, Until We Meet Again. 
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5. 3 Will Be Free 
(Thailand 2019) YouTube
Is about a mafia kid, a stripper, and a grifter who accidentally kill a hitman and then have to go on the run with two assassins chasing them. Along the way the three of them basically fall in love with each other. You also get the mafia hitmen perspective. It’s GREAT and very queer. 
KP rating 6/10 
Low heat levels for this one because it’s from GMMTV. However it is also low angst (there consistent outside stressors and this plot moves FAST), good chemistry, lots of action, very grey morality, multiple couples (but with each other, this is a poly romance), is not set at school, and has a longer length treatment. However, the characters aren’t entirely mature and it has a slightly ambiguous ending - they survive and are kind-of together but also stuff has happened. I dinged it an extra point because technically this is a queer romance and not, actually, a BL at all. Still it’s a very under-appreciated gem of a show, and I highly recommend it. 
What to watch next if this was your favorite on this list: there’s nothing else out there like this show, sorry, it’s unique. However if you like Tay (Shin) you should watch his BL series the Kiss series and Dark Blue Kiss (watching guide here) where he plays a completely different personality. 
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6. Irresistible Love 
AKA Irresistible Love: Secret of the Valet (YouTube) + Irresistible Love 2 AKA Uncontrolled Love (YouTube) 
(China 2016) grey 
This two movie series is mafia esk but it’s very rough and lacks narrative cohesion. Rich kid (maybe mafia) boss has obsession with his family’s butler in a classic execution of the whipping boy trope. It’s in two parts and the second part has two endings, you want the one that ends not entirely unhappily. I not-so-secretly love this BL: obsession, mutilation, very hard fought and absolutely classic Chinese BL pre-censorship. It's a wild melodramatic ride.
KP rating 6/10
This has higher heat levels (all are dub con), good chemistry, very grey morality, mature characters, non-school setting and a medium length treatment. It also has some serious angst because of the unequal power dynamic and the seme’s bisexuality, there’s little action, only one couple, and the ending is all over the place, happyish if you can find the right one. (As of typing this post: the YouTube links should still work, but this is a grey show it has no official distribution.) 
What to watch next if this was your favorite on this list: really? This one was your favorite? Okay then, how about trying My Beautiful Man AKA Utsukushii Kare? Or go for Addicted, if you want the best that China can do. 
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7. Golden Blood 
(Thailand 2021) YouTube 
A Thai BL pulp with the whipping boy trope (attack dog variant) about a boy who is pulled off the streets because he has the correct blood type and trained to be the servant/caretaker/bodyguard of a rich mafia kid. They fall in love.
KP rating 5/10
This one has higher heat levels, multiple couples, a longer length treatment and a happy ending. But it is a Thai pulp so the production values are poor. There is some unnecessary angst as the characters are not mature and it is partly set in university, the chemistry is uneven (great with the sides but not the mains), there is action but it’s not very good, and grey morality (sort of). All in all, a mixed bag.
If you liked this best you have some pretty relaxed standards. why not lean in and try some MAME stuff like TharnType, Don’t Say No, or Love in the Air. Consider yourself warned. 
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8. Unforgotten Night 
(Thailand 2022) iQIYI 
Ostensibly a kinky story of a mafia Dom who after a one night stand gets obsessed with a simple office worker and kidnaps him into his dark crime riddled world. But that made it sound appealing. It’s terrible. 
KP rating 5/10
It does have higher heat levels but they aren’t actually, ya know, good because the chemistry is poor, there’s a lot of unnecessary angst, there’s some action, grey morality, multiple couples, longer length treatment, and a happy ending but ho boy. It’s not a wild ride, it’s a confused and quite dull one. Also you will spend a lot of time worrying about plumbing, and not in a euphemistic way. 
If you liked this best, you're confused. You need to learn what good chemistry looks like, watch Zee’s catalogue - Why R U? and Cutie Pie. 
There is also Chains of Heart to consider. 
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9. Where Your Eyes Linger 
(Korea 2020) Viki
Ostensibly high school set about a poor kid whose been raised in a mafia kid’s family specifically to protect him (whipping boy trope, attack dog variant). Themes of codependency and survival with pretty classic Korean style romance ending. 
KP rating 4.5/10 
Excepting Strongberry, Korean stuff is rarely high heat, this one gives you a kiss at the end but that’s it. Decent chemistry, only a little action, only one couple (also a hallmark of KBL), and short treatment. It does have grey morality and a happy ending (at the very last minute). The characters are not mature and it is set in high school. 
What to watch next if this was you favorite: you might try Hwang Da Seul’s other BLs To My Star or Blueming. I like the both a whole lot. 
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10. Word of Honor
(China 2021) Viki also Youku’s YouTube 
Yes a censored Chinese bromance actually made one of my lists. But remember I’m rating this by KP standards, not my own. Normally I leave the censored stuff off my lists because I believe in censoring the censors. However, if anything gets on, it’s usually this one. 
This show is my favorite of the post 2016 bromance wave. It’s two murder-gay assassins (pining sunshine/tsundere), and they are so insanely gay for two boys who are never allowed to kiss. Tropes include: wuxia, soulmates, paranormal, historical, and fantasy elements.
KP rating 4/10
No heat, this is Chinese BL post censorship, some angst (China likes angst) but in this case it’s warranted, good chemistry, fantastic action, beautifully grey morals, there are other couples but only het and they die, a VERY long treatment, and an ambiguous ending.
If this was your favorite go ahead and watch Untamed (knowing they don’t end up together) or even The Guardian. You might also try Advance Bravely if only to see our boy Jun swap seme for uke. That’s kind of a bodyguard romance. 
And that’s it, those are my recs. Feel free to leave your own recs (and reasons) in the comments. 
This post is dated Sept 2022, not responsible for other BLs that come along after that date and fit the KP model better. 
That said, recent addition?
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Never Let Me Go
KP rating 7/10
This is a bodyguard romance with has lower angst, good chemistry, action, multiple couples (sort of), mature-ish characters, longer length treatment, a happy ending. However it is medium heat, no grey morality, and 1/2 in a school setting. 
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iguessitsjustme · 1 year
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To be clear, they’re all getting pushed. We just need to decide who goes first.
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when the bl writer is ““problematic”” but shares nearly all your kinks
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wuxianphobic · 1 year
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which of my favorite gay shows/bls should you watch
go wild gay ppl
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Big Fan of the “2nd Couple is Getting Married Next Week” Energy.
I’m talking…
Prapai & Sky
Vegas & Pete
Sky & Jao
Yi & Khondiao (yes tech Kuea & Lian are engaged but these 2 💯 will be eloping tomorrow)
Sho Zhe Yu & Pei Shou Yi
Leon & Pob (whenever their series gets here you know they’ll be married before Leo & Fiat)
Edit: Tor & Fighter (bc if PrapaiSky are on this list, they can be too!)
It just really slaps for me we a couple gets together & is like “welp that’s me done for LIFE!”
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lgbtally4ever · 4 months
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Don’t Say No
I’m rewatching the series and I had forgotten all about Fiat’s psychotic and abusive mother, who psychologically damaged him, as a young boy, by brainwashing, beating, and gaslighting him!
She’s a MONSTER!
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forkaround · 1 year
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Hear me out - BL meets Indian TV serials.
I had a horrible idea now you get a horrible idea
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this thing where they literally melt when their neck is being kissed ? I’m sick about it it’s so goddman beautiful
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mysterygrl20 · 3 days
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April 21, 2024 | Ja Phachara
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ieroween1031 · 1 year
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Okay, so I know everyone’s still losing their shit over the new episode of Love in the Air, but while that world was imploding, did anyone else see this?!
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James and Smart are together again! I assume that since LITA is ending soon, Mame wants to move right along and start getting some hype for a new show, which is most likely going to be Just Say Yes.
Which means that hopefully soon, we’ll be getting some trailers and BTS vlogs and interviews and maybe even, I don’t know, a storyline for JSY. There doesn’t seem to be any other cast yet, and I’m assuming that Ja and First won’t be returning (unless it’s just a cameo) because they’re busy with Remember Me, but still!
I’m so stoked for a continuation of Leon and Pob’s story. I was so angry with how they ended it and I just them to have their happy ending!
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minimeowsom · 1 year
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14 BL Men i would allow to steal my heart on the 14th of Feburary.
Happy Valentine
My first and longest Relationship of four years ended just two Weeks ago. and what do we do to get over men? we stan more men. So this post is me Fangirling BL Characters.
Note: i thought about if i wanted this to be actors or Characters, but in the end i dont know anything about the actors, so that would be purely phisical wich is kinda boring, so this will be abour Charakters more then actors ( but lets be honest sometimes the actor just plays into it, i am biased after all. With that being said: LETS GO.
Not on this list but very VERY cute:
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I love Porchay, Tinn and Gun, and i know the actors are all 18 now, but when they where Filming they were all minors, so are thier caracters. It dosent matter to me that i am not much older. Tinn , Gun and Porchay go in the cute folder and stay there.
14. Hia YI (Cutie Pie)
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I knew i would end up with one of the Hia-Squad Guys on this list. in thhe end it is Hia Yi, I personally find him a bit more atractive then Lian but it also breaks my heart how gultiy he still feels for Diaos accident. I think he cares so much that sometimes he doset know how to act what makes him distant, wich is the reason he only manages spot 14 on this list.
13. Leo (dont say no)
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So first of: i was todays days old when i found out Leo und Fiat are a support ship in Tarntype but anyway ... i like leo, he is lovabale, cute, supportive and can man-handle you if wanted. What puts him a bit down for me is how just accepting he is sometimes, like have your own willpower if you just do what i say , i feel like i am taking advantage of him.
12. Price (Sky in your Mind)
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I think i am kind of simmalr to Prince, we would get along, ofc i am not an aristocratic heir, but i am studying to be a teacher, i love being around kids and i have a more gentle personaltiy, this is also the reason he is not higher, i dont think we an really chalange each other to grow. but he is probably the most cute canditate on this list. and he will always be.
11. Kinn (KinnPorsche)
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And here my bias beginns.... Kinn is probably the worst boyfriend on this list if you ... you know not wanna die. But he is my Bad Boy, the one who would burn the world for you, would kill for you, and still would be kind to you and you only. He is gonna leave his mafia Life behind for you (like he wanted to for Porsche) and GOD i am sorry but Mile is so fucking atractive its unfair.
10. Sky (Love in the Air)
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If i wanna have sky on this list i gotta kind of disrigade his Trauma, cause i know i would not be able to take care of it at this point of my life, i dont know if i could handle it, like Pai can for example. But if we talk about his looks: i mean sky is very pretty and i find him very cute in casual cloth. His Personality also seems very entertaing to be around, he can be fun,cute, sassy and seems highly intelegint so you can have a good conversation with him. Sjy biggest "downside" is how he sometimes just forgets to communicate with people that care about him, wich could become pretty anoying i imagainen.
9. Akk (The Eclipse)
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I will say this is the point where it just into who is my typ the most (maybe with one exeption), but that being said i love the eclipse and you will find Akks other half even higher on this list (just because he is more my type xD ) but akk is someone so incredibly sweet, he of course hase the brainwashing problem that has to be dealt with but as we can see as soon as his views get challenged he shows how much he cares, you can also see this side of him earlier with his friends, so i think Akk is just gonna get goofier with time.
8. Win (Between us)
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I don’t really know why i need Win on this list, but everytime the WinTeam, Into you, edit comes into my YouTube autoplay i just fall in love with him again. Of course it has to do with the fact that bourn is a very handsaome guy, but also how deeply he cares, not only for Team but for his siblings, and friends. He ofcourse has his own problems, than again who doesn’t. Also i can’t explain why but i find swimming extremely attractive. Don’t judge me.
7. Sound (My School President)
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So sound is just cute, i would like someone to court me so respectfully aggressiv like he is courting Win, sound seems distant at first when he joins the music club, but warms up to them and turns out to be kind of a goofball himself, he cares for them and even try’s (to no success) to hide his wrist injuries so to not worry them. I think by now my type kind of shows himself: i am really into men who can man-handle me but in a very respectful way if you know what i mean, and i feel like sounds just fits so perfectly on that description.
6. Gaipa (Moonlight Chicken)
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So Gaipa is kind of cheating myself, because as already mentioned with Akk , Akks second half will be a bit later on this list, and big surprise if i like Aye , Gaipa is really not that far away, after all to no one’s surprise they look the same. But i could have done this with multiple people on this list so why Kaipa? I just think the way Gaipa showed his love for Jim is so lovely to me. His food is his love language and i feel like he is getting absolutely robbed by Jim, He knows Gaipa likes him and just ignores him.He is kind, thoughtful and so desperately in love with Jim that i can’t do anything but feel sad for him being stuck in between where he is. When he loves you he gives you his all. I am interested to see how his story will progress and maybe he will be even higher by the end of Moonlight Chicken.
5. Pat (Bad Buddy)
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So when i tried to decide if i want Pat or Pran higher on this list i had a rough time, I think my problem is that their characters shine in their Relationship with each other the most. So i think separating them takes away a lot of it. But we are not here for deep analysis we are here for my Valentines Shitpost. And i think Pat is fun entertaing and very Handsome, maybe to me even a bit more Handsome then Pran to me. But i think he would clash why harder in many regards. I would like to keep it lowkey and i need my life to be organised so i think Pat and i could have fun but we would clash and challenge each other a lot.
4.Pran (Bad Buddy)
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As mentioned it was a close race for fourth between Pat and Pran and eventho i personally find Pat a bit more Handsome i think personality wise i would match better with Pran. I like his artsy side a lot, and my god i don’t know why i didn’t say that when talking about Sound earlier but my god Men that can play gituar and sing me to sleep just double their attractiveness. I also like how organised he likes to be and his a bit more (at least compared to Pat) slow and gentle personality. Pat is an all in lover wich i can respect but i have a bit more respect for Pran, he loved Pat for so long without knowing how to convey his Feelings or if they even ever had a chance, that man truly loves and if he does he does so for a long time.
Before my Top 3 : so those three i shuffled around like 5 times while making this list and i still feel like the list changes every other minute. But i love them all so much and god if one of them wants to become real and date me , hit me up
3. Parpai (Love in the Air)
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Okay so to start this of: i think Fort ( or parpai, take it as you want) is incredibly attractive. I started watching BL cause i saw a picture of him in the Viki Preview of Love in the Air. That is also one of the reasons Parpai is so high on this list, he just holds a special place in my heart. But also if you ignore his first not so respectful aggressiv courting at the beginning you get a very green flag. He cares and communicates so much, he makes sure his partner knows he is there for him and he sugar baby’s him (that is not needed tho) also something i said in my love in the air review is that before i saw Fort i never understood what it means when people say someone has gentle eyes but god damit i can see it with Fort. Everytime he looks at anything really he just seems like he could calm my worst moods pretty easy, if you wanted more what i like about Parpai i could write down Skys notebook here but you can just watch Ep.12 again and you will know. Parpai will be always one of my favourite characters.
2. Kim (KinnPorsche)
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Kim is just as Kinn ealier Probably not a really good Option when looking for someone to date. His family just is a major Problem. He knows that too, just look at his broken Love for Porschay. But he is in anyway the Softer version of Kim. Yes he is in a very Dangerous Family but he is way less involved, He would also Kill and Burn the world for you but i feel like Kinn would burn it down first and then look for you and Kim would look first. And i said it before and i will say it again: MY GOD i love my sining guitar Players. The softness with wich Kim looks at Porchay makes my Butterflies have a dance party every time. Breaking my Character only Rule here the most i also gotta say that Jeff Satur is to me one of the most Attractive People out there. And if he is actually like he is portrait in Interviews and lives i would be super down to date someone like him. I fell so hard when he said his pet peeve are bully’s. It sounds so standard but most people have why more trivial things as pet peeves and bully’s i think is an incredibly sweet answer. Also the way and the patience with wich he takes care of the so much younger Barcode shows how lovable he is. BUT going back to Kim even tho dating Kim would never be free of danger i think he would do EVERYTHING to keep you out of it. because he loves you.
1. Aye (The Eclipse)
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We had Khao on this list ealier where i didn’t say it but i think it is pretty clear that i think he is super Pretty and Handsome. He wouldn’t make the list twice if i didn’t think so. But why is does Aye win the Gold Medal and Kaipa doesn’t? First of i Personally think no one on this list full files Respectfully Man-Handling you the way Aye does. He is just so sweet, playful but sure of his beliefs and ideals, he is also willing to compromise to make his partner comfortable without letting them do the wrong thing. I can write a long list of words here what i like about Aye: Handsome, Funny, Kind, caring, Smart, Wilful, Loveable, committed. But i don’t feel like i do him justice, I can’t discribe what makes me love him so much. If you haven’t seen the Eclipse. Go watch it. Its really good. And Fall in love with Aye like i have. I also want to add that i think Khao does a great job acting, he is a very skilled emotional actor and makes you feel like you wanna cry when he is said but also makes you happy with him, wich makes Aye feel so alive.
Anna Out ^-^
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Happy Valentines Day!
Have some of my favorite kisses from the Kings:
Until We Meet Again (OhmFluke) 
TharnType (MewGulf) 
Not Me (OffGun... FINALLY) 
Don’t Say No (JaFirst) 
Dear Doctor, I’m Coming for Your Soul (KarnNut) 
Dark Blue Kiss (TayNew) 
Cutie Pie (ZeeNunew) 
Cupid’s Last Wish (EarthMix) 
Between Us (BounPrem) 
Bad Buddy (Ohm & Nanon) 
And, under how could I possible forget... MaxTul
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theflagscene · 1 year
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Spotify Wrapped BL Couples Edition
Put your top 100 (101) songs on shuffle and assign the first ten random songs you get to a specific BL couple, doesn’t have to make complete sense to anyone but you. This is harder than it sounds, trust me.
No need to tag anyone, just have fun trying to match random songs to your favourite (or least favourite) couples, and yes, not entirely canon couples count too ;)
1: Ghost (cover) by Madilyn Bailey - Dean / Pharm
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2: Drown by Boy In Space - Leon / Pob
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3: Cross by Echos - Todd / Black
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4: When The Darkness Comes by Grace Fulmer - In / Korn
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5: I Don’t Want You Back by AJ Mitchell - Korn / Win
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6: Bleed Out by Isak Danielson - Sean / White
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7: Oxytocin by Billie Eilish - Vegas / Pete
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8: Maybe You Saved Me by Bad Suns & PVRIS - Dan / Yok
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9: Monster by PVRIS - Tan / Bunn
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10: Version Of Me by Sasha Alex Sloan - Akk / Ayan
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kwonzoshi · 1 year
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Is it bad that I think people are a bit too harsh on Mame? Maybe it’s because I haven’t watched Tharntype (which I usually see people criticizing) but I see people nagging on her for 2 things: toxic love interests and sexual assault plot lines. The former happens more often than not in BL, and the latter…idk man, not to make any assumptions, but usually when writers frequently include a serious element like this in their work, it’s because of real life experience with it.
Honestly, I don’t really have much to say on Mame per se. There are definitely WORSE authors in the industry.
People will feel what they feel and at the end of the day it’s all about perception.
I do agree with the end, I don’t want to assume anything but that is true for a lot of authors. They pull from their own experiences and traumas.
Hard to say where she got these plot ideas from but, if anyone wants to provide any opinions or open a dialogue about it: Feel free to do so.
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firebluewood157 · 1 year
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As a final goodbye this seems appropriate to release. I’d like to thank FortPeat for portraying these characters beautifully and wish them well on their future endeavors. You can send the characters back to us now.
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