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#Also typing out these ship names I'm realizing how many of these are queer ships and I love y'all for that
kebbopulos · 1 year
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I've been looking at the tumblr's year in review and I had NO IDEA that Stranger Things was so popular on here? I guess I just don't interact with it much (Steddie deserved better tho). But the Stranger Things fandom has 11 of the top 100 ships on tumblr, and 3 of those are in the top 5! Shout out and congrats to the Stranger Things folks, yall are dedicated
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maya-matlin · 17 days
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Five ships: Jonnor, Morisol, Spaige, Bhandallas, Beckdam
Five characters: Ellie, Ashley, Liberty, Terri, Emma
Bonus: Name your five most seemingly unpopular Degrassi opinions :)
1.) Spaige
2.) Morisol
3.) Jonnor
4.) Beckdam
5.) Bhandallas
1.) Liberty
2.) Ellie
3.) Emma
4.) Ashley
5.) Terri
As for my opinions:
1.) I'm not sure how to phrase this without it coming across like I'm excusing Tristan's biphobia or trying to shut down fans' rightful and completely understandable criticisms re: Tristan's biphobic moments. But, I think Tristan sometimes gets scapegoated as the biphobic guy. Degrassi always had a massive biphobia problem, and it didn't begin and end with Tristan. It's present as early as Paige's time on the show. Like many shows at the time and even some present day shows, they refused to label any polysexual characters. It's always "I like people". "I'm not into labels." "I don't like this gender, but I like you." "I'm open minded." Anything that talks around the possibility that a character could be anything besides straight or gay/lesbian. Obviously, sexual orientation isn't limited to a specific label. Oftentimes, people choose to remain unlabeled, fall somewhere under the queer umbrella, or consider things like this very complex and therefore don't take on a label. It's the casual way Imogen goes from "I like people" to being referred to as a lesbian during her final season and expressing disgust when contemplating getting involved with her canonical ex boyfriend. The writers' Twitter "confirmed" Imogen as pansexual years later and that's also how I interpret the character's sexual orientation, but.. it doesn't change how they chose to portray Imogen's sexual orientation. However, it's also true that society is only now starting to catch up and has started writing their characters accordingly. Tristan's ignorance about Miles's sexual orientation and refusal to put his insecurities aside and accept that he's in love with a bisexual man until his final season has no excuse. There could have been an arc dedicated to Tristan unlearning this behavior and being a better partner and person in general. This never happened. Degrassi did the absolute bare minimum by having Lola be the one to validate Miles's identity presumably after enough people called them out on social media following the premiere of Next Class season 1. Tristan sort of halfway accepts that Miles is bi, but it's Miles who has the dialogue explaining while there's never acknowledgement that Tristan hadn't accepted Miles up to this point or made him feel any type of way. And on that note, Miles isn't shown reacting to any biphobia. We don't know what he thinks, whether he's mad, feels rejected, insecure, feels as though he needs to be "less" to be accepted by his boyfriend, etc. I don't think I made any sort of point, but basically I feel like everything gets reduced to "Tristan is trash," and that's the end of the conversation when I feel like it goes much deeper?
2.) Eli wasn't out of character during seasons 13 and 14. There's a precedent for Eli lashing out and blaming Clare when things don't go his way or she does something he perceives as wrong. Also, while the timeline was baffling, Eli's only human and it's not surprising that he'd struggle with loneliness once he and Clare were physically separated. As for season 14, Eli being possessive and saying inappropriate, vaguely misogynistic things to Clare 100% lines up with canon. Eli also seemed fully lucid to me when he was calling Clare a whore. He was clearly getting off on that and only changed his stance when he realized she was carrying his child.
3.) This is so minor, but I don't give a flying fuck that Alex Steele came back as Tori and not Angie. It's television. Actors play multiple roles all the time. It's kind of annoying that this overshadows Tori's whole character and existence. I don't think she was around long enough to be super complex or anything, but I liked that character for who she was and the monthly comments complaining about this since like 2011 have been annoying.
4.) As much as I love the idea of Spinner and Terri getting together and possibly becoming endgame in a scenario where Terri sticks around, in actuality I think Spinner would have dropped the ball hard. Considering how he behaved with Paige during season 4, I doubt he would have been the best boyfriend to Terri with or without Paige's interference. As shady as Paige was, Spinner's interest switched from Terri to Paige extremely quickly.
5.) Ashley was depressed throughout her time on the show barring the year she spent in London and everyone missed it, the writers included. I don't know that this is actually unpopular, but she's constantly misunderstood and accused of being "moody" and "dramatic" and it's just very obvious to me that she's unhappy a lot of the time and feels very stifled. She's desperate to find some sort of way to express herself whether it be by writing and performing songs or altering her physical appearance. And at the end of season 4, I genuinely think her mental health had taken its toll which forced her to cut contact with Craig and get the hell away from Degrassi. While she came back seemingly with a new lease on life and appeared happier during season 6, by season 7 she was back to feeling limited and suddenly, the plans she made with Jimmy that used to make sense felt all wrong. IDK.
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abysscronica · 1 year
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Hello!!
so we’re all talking about Victoria, but let’s say that she never died and Kid and established a pirate crew and still named his ship after her. And Killer and Kidd were still kinda fighting over her. Then the whole birdie being left by the marines happened.
Would Kid have killed her because he already had another woman?
Or would Killer have had taken Birdie as his?
And in another scenario when Birdie is defending herself on the sinking Marine warship and shoots and kills Victoria, and birdie is later captured. Would Kid still have fallen for her? Or would he have had killed her as revenge for Victoria?
Hey! Thank you for the questions, let's dive into them! But first, TRIGGER WARNING because I'm mentioning and/or implying very disturbing implications on birdie's alternate fate down below.
Just one note before we start: I don't think Kid would have named the ship after her if Victoria were still alive. I feel like he's way too tsundere to make such a blatant act of love right in front of the woman he likes.
I will start with the last scenario, so we get that done right away: if birdie had killed Victoria, Kid would have brutally butchered her, in a horrible way. I really don't see any other way out of this, so I'll move on with the different scenarios where Victoria is still alive at the time of Captive.
Unfortunately many of these have very dark implications for birdie, including torture, r*pe, and murder, so I don't want to go into too much detail. If Victoria was Kid's girlfriend when birdie is taken prisoner, birdie would be either a) left to the crew for their fun; b) given to Kid AND Victoria for their fun; c) given to Killer. Now, Killer would be the least of evils here, except we know that in the early phase of birdie's captivity, he insisted with Kid that she was a problem and she should be thrown in the sea. I see no reason why it would be different if she was given directly to him. Even if he didn't abuse her and just tried to get intel out of her, if he ever realized that he was getting drawn in by her courage and attitude (maybe in the same way that Victoria attracted him), he would throw her out immediately. He has enough intelligence and self control to do it.
Now, onto the last scenario: Victoria is alive but she's not Kid's girlfriend, and both boys are still smitten with her. This is more interesting, because it opens up a lot of other possibilities, it's basically a love triangle where you throw a fourth element in, one with the potential to draw in all the other parties up to some level. And I mean yes, all the parties, because let's be honest: if Victoria didn't go for neither Kid nor Killer for decades, it'd be safe to imply that she's not interested in them, so she's open to pursue whom she wants. Then why not birdie, for example? If she's queer (and EVERYONE in the Kid Pirates is probably queer), there's a chance that birdie may be her type. After all she does possess qualities that Victoria probably finds attractive: she's strong, rebellious, and it's possible that her caustic tongue might just be what Kid & Killer lacked. Of course it's also possible that Victoria would be repulsed by birdie's weakness, or the fact that she's a marine, or anything else about her.
Now, what about Kid? Let's say he takes birdie to get his mind off Victoria, at least at first. It's really hard to say whether and how things may evolve. To what extent would his attraction to birdie grow? Since Victoria doesn't give him the time of the day, would he be able to finally let go, and let his feelings for birdie take over? It's really a tough call, considering that he was probably crushing hard over Doruyanaika since he was a child. And yet, with birdie, he would have a physical connection that he probably never had with Victoria, including regular, great sex. Would that be enough to sway him? I'm not sure.
Finally, Killer. As before, if birdie was given directly to him, she would eventually be thrown overboard. But let's say she's given to Kid, and he keeps her around long enough for Killer to get some sort of feelings for her, but ends up setting her aside because unable to stop thinking about Victoria. I think, in this instance, Killer would be smarter than Kid. He would catch the chance to get over his childhood crush in favor of birdie (if she returns the sentiment, of course). The problem here is that birdie's mental state would be much more worn out that what you originally see in Captive, I'm not sure how much of her sanity would be even left at this point. Killer would have to take her away from Kid in the early stages and nurture her back to an acceptable status to have a chance for success.
And how would Victoria react to all of this? Would she be jealous and get rid of birdie (she definitely has the power to do that in an instant), or would she encourage Kid/Killer to finally get over her and go for the marine girl? We don't know much about her character to speculate, but personally I like to believe that she would tease the shit out of Kid/Killer (depending on who goes for birdie), and find it amusing to watch her childhood friend fall for the marine girl. If she doesn't fall herself, which is a scenario that I actually enjoy even more.
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