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sara sidle + realizing she is the only one who receives christmas gifts from grissom
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aborddelimpala · 2 years
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SPN + pop culture | Touched by an Angel
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ladyluscinia · 6 months
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So I'm going to a Barbie themed party and I think I can pull together a Cool Career Ken outfit.
As in this one:
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nicholaes · 11 months
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the spike and buffy interactions in superstar are everything to me
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Amy and Annabelle talk about the seventy seventh episode of Supernatural "It's a Terrible Life"
This week we discuss; Niche British references, repetitive transitions and muscle memory!
WARNING: Spoilers ahead and Content Warnings within the context of the episode.
Art by @thepixelagora​
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swordofsun · 2 months
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@scoobydoodean had been posting about 4x17 It's A Terrible Life and it's reminded me of one of my favorite overlooked bits in the episode and how it shows that Zachariah is just wrong about Dean.
Zachariah's whole theory with this little experiment is that Dean will choose hunting.
ZACHARIAH To prove to you that the path you're on is truly in your blood. You're a hunter. Not because your dad made you, not because God called you back from hell, but because it is what you are. And you love it. You'll find your way to it in the dark every single time and you're miserable without it. Dean, let's be real here. You're good at this. You'll be successful. You will stop it.
But Dean has expressly denied hunting already at the end of the last act:
SAM Look, all I know is this isn't who we're supposed to be. DEAN No. I'm Dean Smith, okay? Director of Sales and Marketing. I went to Stanford. My father's name is Bob, my mother's name is Ellen, and my sister's name is Jo. SAM When was the last time you talked to them? To any of them? DEAN Okay, you're upset. You're upset, you're confused— SAM Yeah, 'cause I only moved here 'cause I just broke up with my fiancée, Madison. But I called her number and I got a damn animal hospital. DEAN Okay. What are you saying? Are you trying to say that my family isn't real? Huh? That we've been injected with fake memories? Come on. SAM All I know is, I got this feeling in my gut. And I know—I know that deep down, you gotta be feeling it too. We're supposed to be something else. You're not just some corporate douchebag. This isn't you. I know you. DEAN Know me? You don't know me, pal. You should go. SAM leaves.
Sam tried to get Dean to drop everything and go hunting. They stopped a ghost! It was fun! They could do this, but Dean's not going to give up his life for it. Dean has no intention of turning his life upside down to start hunting and it's not until Zachariah lays out one of the most depressing 10 year plan ever:
ADLER Positive. You are Sandover material, son. Real go-getter. Carving your own way. DEAN Well, thanks. I try. ADLER I see big things in your future. Maybe even senior VP, Eastern Great Lakes Division. Don't get me wrong, you'll have to work for it. Seven days a week, lunch at your desk, but in eight to ten short years, that could be you. DEAN takes off his headset. DEAN Uh, well, thank you. Thank you, sir. It's, um...but... DEAN passes the paper back. DEAN I am giving my notice.
He's already the director of marketing and sales and his career plan is 10 years of nothing but work to make VP of a division? Probably a small division? Everyone would quit with that laid out. Maybe not as directly as Dean does, but yeah, they'd be going home and revamping the resume. That's a dead end career path you'd have to bust your ass and give up your life for.
Hearing that and going "hmm, maybe I take some time and check out that hunting thing with that Wesson guy. He was less creepy once we started working on the haunting, for the most part" is actually a pretty normal thing to do.
And really Zachariah doesn't even give him the chance to go find Sam. Because there's actually a good chance Dean gets home and after thinking about it he just updates his resume and LinkedIn. He had to give Dean back his memories in that exact moment in order to try and leverage the situation to his advantage.
Zachariah stacked the deck and still barely managed to get Dean to quit his job. Dean wasn't running to hunting with open arms. He was, at best, looking at it as a more viable option than the shitty 10 year plan Mr. Adler just laid out. And Zachariah couldn't wait for him to actually choose hunting, he had to strike before Dean could second guess himself.
(Even Sam is making the choice between IT support call center or ghost hunting. This isn't hard.)
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sidlesbitch · 5 months
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every CSI episode:
04x17 - XX
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angelkissesdean · 3 months
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Huh. Smith & Wesson is a gun manufacturer?
I bet they thought they were soooo cool and sooooooo funny
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starless-planet · 1 year
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I feel like we all misinterpreted “It’s A Terrible Life”
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mcuxhp777 · 16 days
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04x14 - 04x17 Oswald's type: Men who tried to kill him
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Fran Fine’s Outfits
04x17: Samson, He Denied Her
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Do you have any analysis writing on the textbook Grissom gave Sara for Christmas in 4x17 XX? I’m wondering about the scene & Sara’s reaction & nicks smile and the timeline. Maybe there’s nothing too deep here but I enjoy the stuff of yours that I’ve read!
hi, @needonlytoendure!
i do indeed have a couple of posts on that subject:
this one identifies the timeline of when grissom gives sara the entomology textbook and discusses why sara perhaps at first fails to recognize its significance.
this one speculates on if nick, hodges, or any other team members were perhaps more vigilant regarding grissom and sara's holiday gift-giving habits following sara's inadvertent reveal about the entomology textbook.
to add on a bit to what i say in those posts:
my mostly baseless headcanon is that grissom and sara are in the habit of exchanging christmas gifts before she ever moves to vegas. because their relationship at that time is nebulous in definition, the gifts themselves are ambiguous in nature—maybe a tad bit too personal to be just a "friends giving tchotchkes" thing but also not inherently romantically-coded, either.
while they won't give lingerie, jewelry, bathrobes, cologne, etc., the gifts they do end up giving tend to come with the implied message of "here's this thing you mentioned several months ago in passing that you like or are interested in that shows i pay you too much concentrated attention at all times."
so.
because their gift exchange is already a tradition between them by the time sara moves to vegas and joins grissom's team, he can justify to himself continuing to buy gifts for her (and her reciprocating) even once she becomes his subordinate.
it's something that just gets "grandfathered in" to their new normal in nevada.
and the first year she's in vegas, sara doesn't think twice about the whole thing because it's so incredibly normal for them.
of course they get each other christmas gifts! duh! they're friends! probably more than friends! they've always done it!
only later, after sara's been in vegas for a while and her and grissom's relationship has gotten a lot more complicated/fraught, does she begin to question the fact that he's still getting her presents every year—at which point i think she comes to the rationalization that he most likely gets all of his employees gifts.
self-effacing as she is, she decides, "well, okay, since he clearly has no interest in being in a relationship with me, there's no way there's anything romantic about him getting me presents every year. he probably just does that for everyone on the team."
while she may still puzzle over the significance of the gifts themselves and sometimes get the feeling they're a little too particular to be totally meaningless on his part, she nevertheless fails to understand that just the act of him giving her gifts at all singles her out as special.
—which probably suits him just as well, because he's trying not to be conspicuous.
given that he thinks about her all the time and has a deep-seated instinct to give her all the best things™—primo cases, prestigious solo assignments, special treatment over other team members, artless compliments, green plants, etc.—he likely has to really work to rein himself in, in terms of what he allows himself to get for her.
there's a not insubstantial part of him that, like he talks about in the original scripted version of his monologue from episode 04x12 "butterflied," wants to present her with "bracelets with her birthstone" in them.
but of course he can't, because to do so would unavoidably mean something.
so he toes the line.
gets her gifts that are ostensibly innocuous—like the textbook—but still are just a shade too thoughtful to entirely camouflage his feelings.
there's still something of that little boy on the playground who just wants to share cool bugs with the girl he likes in him.
so while he can't give her anything valuable by worldly standards, he gives her things that are valuable to him and which show her parts of him because he so desperately wants her to know and love him.
but he dares not tell her that she is the only member of the team he actually gets gifts for.
and, of course, in order to maintain the ruse that he is just being a kindly supervisor, he can't stop giving her gifts, even at times when their relationship is strained/complicated.
so christmas '02, when she's dating hank? she still receives a gift.
and christmas '03, when they've barely spoken to each other all year? he gets her the textbook.
and it isn't until sara mentions grissom's gift to nick and hodges in march '04 that she ever wises up that actually, no, grissom is not just being a nice boss—he's doing something for her he doesn't do for anyone else.
and since within the universe of the show episode 04x17 "xx" takes place two months after the events of episode 04x12 "butterflied," you can bet that revelation fucks with her head.
money says she goes home after that shift and pulls out every christmas gift he's given her since 1998, poring over them like ciphers, trying to figure out the secret message.
anyway, rambling now.
thanks for the question!
please feel welcome to send another any time.
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irrelevantfox · 2 years
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04x17 // 05x20
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serendipity0930 · 6 days
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sam crowbar-ing the phone in 04x17 is so real of him like that's exactly what goes through my head when I'm overstimulated
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ani-coolgirl · 10 months
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So how’s this whole thing work? I’ve been lurking on this site for years and I barely know how it functions. Whatever, UNFILTERED THOUGHTS, LET’S GO:
Why is it so hard to write fic for an episode that makes it so easy? The Monster at the End of This Book (04x17) makes the most hilarious of tropes a reality: characters reading fanfiction about themselves. And yet, with this golden opportunity in my lap comes the indecisiveness. It is inherently and absurd scenario which you’d think would call for levity. Yet, on the other hand, the episode is hardly light (despite being one of three episodes on the whole series where no one dies) being one of the more literal examples of the boys being presented with the idea of an inescapable fate. So, do I linger on the truly bizarre notion that they can look up porn of them doing the incestuous nasty at any time? Or to get hyper-fixated on the fact that Dean says straight to Sam’s face that he’s afraid he’ll go darkside? Or do I some how manage to marry both things together and pray it doesn’t turn into a tonal shitshow?
Look, I know he’s actually God and a ultimately a huge dillweed but... I get why Chuck drinks.
(Note, eventually post a huge rant about Chuck’s character development and why I have problems with it at some point.)
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Hi Purgatory Pals!
Episode 04:17 - ‘It’s a Terrible Life’ is now available to listen to on YouTube!
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