Oliver and Bear, 4.19.24

I find it very interesting that Tim Minear told an interviewer that they are “basically laying down the train tracks on 911 while the train is still moving”. And then he further added that they’re still “in the middle of writing episodes 8-10” which are literally set to air next month. So what this tells me is that they are definitely waiting to gauge general audience reactions for the storylines they have leading up to the small hiatus. Because the hiatus gives them plenty of time to rewrite anything that might not be accepted positively or double down and perfect their initial ideas.

Now what I find a little suspicious is that Tim is a calculated person. We know that he called Oliver ahead of his current storyline and talked to him about what his plans were for Buck, which was his sexuality storyline. Now isn’t it strange how another person on the show, Ryan Guzman, seems so happy and keeps assuring in all his interviews that the writers take into consideration feedback from fans and are going to give us what we want? All the interviews he’s done with Oliver, just give off vibes that they both know something we don’t know. So why would Ryan be so confident in what the writers are writing when according to Tim, they still don’t have anything concrete written for the last three episodes of the season? Unless…unless Tim has also called up Ryan and expressed what his plans are for his character’s storyline for the season. Maybe it was even a joint call of some sort to let both Ryan and Oliver know that he perhaps has plans to get the ball rolling for bringing Buddie together romantically. And what way to do that is by dipping his toe in first with Buck’s storyline with Tommy to see how the general audience reacts to the possibility of Buck dating a man.

Meanwhile Tim has also shown how strong Buck and Eddie are as a family unit with Christopher in episode 7.01. So whatever happens in 7.05 before the hiatus, it’s likely to arise some questions for viewers. And while sifting through the comments and feedback, it’ll help Tim make up his mind on how to finish off this season. Which means it can very possibly end with a big confirmation that Buddie is happening come season 8.

I just think with Tim sharing so many Buddie stills to his personal Facebook page before the season even aired, choosing that specific Buckley Diaz family moment in 7.01, and confirming that they don’t have plans for Buddie “right now” doesn’t confirm it’s not happening. On the contrary, I think he’s literally waiting and watching how the public reacts before coming up with a concrete plan on when it is time to make it happen. Everything he’s done and said just seems so deliberate in my honest opinion.

And both Ryan and Oliver’s behavior also seem very deliberate and I can go on and on about that as well but I’ll just say they’re behaving very differently this season overall than any other season. I mean just look at how often Oliver shares Ryan on his stories. And how quickly Ryan shares 911 content and pictures taken by Oliver to his stories. This has never been the case between these two in all 6 years they’ve worked together. All that aside, choosing both of them to interview together, discuss their storylines and promote together was a definite choice made by whoever is in charge. So why those two specifically when it could’ve been any other 911 cast member? Peter and Angela had a three episode arc and we didn’t get a single joint interview together. We know JLH and Kenny have a big wedding storyline coming up and have yet to get a single joint interview with them. Aisha and Tracie have a storyline coming up about them adding to their family and we don’t have any interviews with them. But we also don’t have any interviews with just like Kenny and Aisha since they also play best friends on the show. Like all these decisions that were made ahead of this season are very suspicious to me especially when you consider literally everything else that’s been said by Tim and both Ryan and Oliver. So I guess take what you will with all this information but I’m just very suspicious about everything that’s going on.

I know “Fear-o-Phobia” was about everyone’s fears and we touched on Buck’s fear of being left behind. But his actual fear is losing Eddie. You can see the air leaving his body in absolute fear, over the mere possibility of losing Eddie. His real fear isn’t being left behind by just anyone, it’s being left behind by Eddie. It’s literally losing the love of his life.

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If I’m not mistaken (it’s a long interview and I could have missed something) he didn’t really say anything about where Buck and Tommy could be heading. He talk more about the mechanics of it all. Figuring out how they were gonna bring them together so a kiss was possible and making sure Oliver and Lou were on the same page beforehand. Not really anything about Buck’s feelings for Tommy or whether or not the relationship has any longevity.

The Buddie question on the other hand, he reiterated that he’s all for it if that’s the path they go down. He made a remark on their chemistry (before in the same interview also mentioned that while he was playing bi Buck in earlier seasons he’d acknowledge the chemistry he had with other male characters, but of course didn’t give any names then, lol). Then he gives us the hurdle that the writers would have to overcome to make sure bi representation respectful and avoid stereotypes. Now we already see in the show how the writers are trying to work through that.

Hello!! Yes I agree with you in terms of what he discussed when he was talking about Tommy. He was speaking openly about things we very much are aware of. Both in the interview with Zach and the interview that came out yesterday I’m not getting much of a longevity for their relationship. Maybe that’s just how I’m interpreting things. Bc again I just find it strange that Oliver himself isn’t really promoting this new relationship himself. He’s shared many articles and brought attention to his characters storyline but it seems to lack the Tommy portion of it. And him saying he hopes that Tommy sticks around as a friend and somewhat mentor was strange TO ME bc why wouldn’t he talk about hopes of them furthering their relationship to some extent? Idk I’m on the same page as you.

In terms of him already playing into it regardless of Tim mentioning something before this season, I’m sorry but who was he going to play into with??? He didn’t even know Lou was going to be on the show until Tim told him. So who on the show was he planning on leaning it into with? But also who in the show was he having chemistry with in prior seasons that if you went back and rewatched, you’d see bi Buck??? Hmmm the only logical answer to both of those questions is Eddie lol. He even confirmed that both he and Ryan have that chemistry and he knows it comes off across to everyone watching. So again, why would he be playing into that aspect of Buck when he didn’t even know a potential new love interest was being introduced??? And everyone else on the show is already paired off so like…he basically gave us an answer without really giving us an answer. And I’m still choosing to focus on how much the topic of Buddie is being brought up everywhere. In every interview and all the comments and even the official pages constantly posting Buddie. It’s all Buddie and if we’re meant to stop giving that ship any attention and really focus on him and Tommy, like why isn’t there more hype for it? And I’m speaking in terms of Oliver, Tim and stuff. I just idk, to me this all seems like it’s eventually being set up for Buddie and we’re obviously taking the slow route there but yeah lol.

Oliver Stark: “I was a show off as a kid and got all the attention but I don’t know why.”

*Oliver Stark as a kid*

I am coming from a place of respect here so please don't take this as an attack on anyone's opinions, likes, or ships...

The last anon you answered mentioned how Buck hasn't had to work for his relationship with Tommy but I think he has and will continue to do so.

He already got left on the date by Tommy and then it was in Buck's wheelhouse to try again. Something we haven't really seen Buck do before.

And Oliver has said he wants Buck and Tommy to deal with struggles that all new relationships have...

Idk...I'm just sharing a different perspective.

Hello and thank you for the respectful message. I hear everything you said. But this is not the first time that Buck has tried again with a partner. When Abby got upaet about the whole catfish thing and left him, he eventually went back to her to explain the entire thing. Because he was willing to work for what they had. And she told him she’s going to Dublin and the man waited months for her.

Then with Taylor, he kinda went back a few times to try again. When they went on the double date with Albert and Beronica and she got upset with him and called him a bad friend, he still called her up and helped her in the end. Yes they weren’t dating at the time but when they were dating, he confessed about cheating on her and asked her to move in to work on things. Then he chased her to another state to prove how willing he is to work on things. It’s always been like him going after his partners in my opinion. Same with Tommy. He left when he was upset after the date and Buck was the one who called and invited him out for a cup of coffee to prove he’s trying again. But the subject of him being on a hamster wheel where he gets a crush and gets the person still stands in my opinion even with Tommy. He didn’t have to work that hard or in my opinion it wasn’t that challenging to get him. And I’m sure we will see more of their relationship unfold. I just, can’t get over the fact that it’s a similar pattern to things we’ve already seen with his previous relationships which is why I personally, again just my thoughts, think it’s the same pattern and he’s on the hamster wheel still. Like you can enjoy a character and not think they’re shitty like some do with Tommy, but also realize it’s the same pattern as we’ve seen before. But again it’s fine if you and others have differing views bc we’re all different people who watch and interpret things differently. That’s what makes fandom unique and certain people enjoy things differently and that’s ok. That’s just MY personally opinion on this subject matter and I hope you understand that. I’m not negating your own thoughts. I read through it and I understand where you’re coming from. But I just don’t see the same thing you do and that’s fine. I hope you understand where I’m also coming from!

iiii just find it so interesting that oliver is talking about tommy already sort of in a past tense sense, and wanting him to stick around more as a mentor / friend for buck to lean on while he navigates / explores his sexuality … and how now during that zach sang interview he has talked about buddie (it being such a prominent interview question still boggles my mind btw like HELLO?) and how he’s up for it and how he would really want them to handle it with the care that it deserves and …. idkidk something about how that other interview he talked about wanting bucks next relationship to be a bit tougher to get, like something he moreso has to work towards instead of just “get a crush, get the person” and how its all coming up buddie to me!! maybe im insane or maybe we are just winning??

Hello! Yea very much this!! Because I’m so sorry but he is still on the same damn hamster wheel where he develops a crush on someone and then bam, he gets in a relationship with them. I don’t know if he’s actually gonna be in a relationship or not but he’s dating Tommy so it didn’t really present much of a challenge for him. Just because it’s a man now doesn’t mean he’s not on the same damn hamster wheel and it’s not the same pattern we’ve seen time and time again. And like I mentioned yesterday, the thing he said that Out article was very much someone who knows Tommy isn’t meant to be the great love of Buck’s life. Like wouldn’t you want to discuss that relationship in a more positive way and hope that you see their relationship develop into something stronger for the future instead of indicating that your hopes are he stays around as some sort of friend and mentor?

And I think this is the first time Oliver really spoke in a positive way about Buddie in a long time. He can’t come out and say “yes of course I want them to happen blah blah blah”. I think it was a very diplomatic way to answer to the best of his ability without actually giving too much away. But the fact that he confirmed that he’s open to it, and he would hope that Tim would tell the most honest story, that tells me that it’s discussed or has been discussed. I just keep thinking about the fact that there’s such a heavy spotlight on Buddie this season. All their interviews mention them one way or another and I’m sure Tim had do have known this was gonna be the case when he came up with Bi Buck storyline for this season. So it tells me that he was anticipating all the Buddie talk and maybe that was his goal for the outcome.

But Oliver very much seems like a person who knows something, but is trying his damn hardest to not give anything away. They’re not gonna wanna give anything away until it’s actually happening and I don’t think it’s gonna actually happen this season. But I do think that come the end of this season, we are going to have a definitive answer as to when to expect it. 

Sometimes I still can’t believe how gay Buck and Eddie’s interactions were all of season 3. I mean the intimate hug with Eddie’s hand lingering on Buck’s waist? GAY. Eddie barging into Buck’s loft and pulling the covers off of him to wake him up? GAY. “Buck, there’s nobody in this world I trust more with my son than you” while intimate eye contact? GAY. Eddie checking out Buck’s ass when he visits them at the station? GAY. “You wanna go for the title?” GAY. Eddie calling Buck and Chris his kinda therapy? GAY. Two guys just chillin, in date clothes and drinkin some beer in Buck’s kitchen? GAY. Building a skateboard for their son and going on a family outing to the park? GAY. Eddie being a jealous bitch when Abby comes back & storming off in a vertical train? GAY. Them taking pictures together in their very tight shirts at May’s party? GAY. Literally no heterosexual explanation for anything that happened in season 3 and after.

I’m more convinced than anything that Oliver was literally trying to not give anything concise away, which is why he said what he said about whether or not he wants Buddie to happen. His body language when he brings up the fact that he doesn’t know what’s going on with Eddie storyline was very much that he’s lying and trying to cover it up by making it seem like he’s very nonchalant and not in the know of what’s happening. When in fact, he does know what’s happening. They’re gonna keep and guard the secret with their lives. And he’s not gonna tell someone in an interview that he really hopes that Buck and Eddie get together especially when his character on the show is currently dating someone else. His body language throughout that entire question is very fascinating to me because you can tell there’s some sort of internal struggle with him, but he keeping a very professional face and answering that question. He kept stuttering and trying to come up with an answer that doesn’t give too much away. He’s not letting his true feelings come to the surface. Him simply acknowledging that they have great chemistry and he doesn’t write the show but go in whatever direction is written just solidifies that it’s happening. It’s in the books.

Where’s the damn lie???? @usereddie haha

Oliver on whether he hopes there’s a future for Buck and Eddie on The Zach Sang Show, 4.19.24

The way I’m honestly willing to bet anything and everything on the fact that Oliver and Ryan fucking know Buddie is happening. Tim has called them and told them BOTH that it’s happening. That’s why they heavily did press together before the start of the season. That’s why Ryan’s been let out of PR jail and happily speaking about Buddie whenever he can. That’s why Oliver is doing a million interviews. Yes the story is about Buck and his journey as of right now. But he knows something considering he’s giving interviews talking about his current on screen love interest in present tense and hoping he stays around as a friend in the future. Why wouldn’t he be hopeful that his current love interest be an endgame type partner??? He knows something. Ryan knows something. I mean even Oliver choosing to post mostly Ryan to his instagram and sharing Buddie content this season is a huge difference from other seasons. Y’all mean to tell me these two idiots don’t know something we do??? It’s obvious as fuck to me. I’m telling y’all remember this when it happens. Buddie is happening. And they’re both in on it. Best worst kept secret babes.

I could never ever close on Buddie. These fuckers dead ass introduced Eddie through Buck’s pov, while he’s half naked, and “Whatta Man” is playing in his head. That’s how you fucking introduce a love interest. I’m not believing for one second that there were no plans for Buddie in the beginning bc point blank you don’t introduce a new character like that and not have them be a love interest. Especially when you zoom in on another character that can possibly be the love interest. And in the place of a previous love interest who’s no longer around. Anyone can talk all they want but some of the most romantic scenes on this show have included Buck and Eddie. That shooting scene? The entire thing was sooo romantically coded and they were the only two there. Eddie fucking reaching out to Buck as he’s slowly losing consciousness? Buck doing everything he can to keep Eddie with him? That’s some of the most romantic shit we’ve seen on this show. They have been paralleling the other main couples for yearssss. They’re co-parenting a child together. Eddie literally put Buck in his fucking will as his child’s legal guardian which is the equivalent of a fucking love confession, considering romance novels are also using that kind of thing as a love confession. This is one of the greatest slow burn love stories that we are witnessing in the history of television and it’s so beautiful to see. And now we have one half confirmed to be queer which means it’s closer than ever. Whether it was truly intentional or not, the actors themselves see the beautiful bond those two characters have and continue to breathe life into them in such an authentic and gentle way. They have been leaning into that role even without prior knowledge or guidance bc even they can see what a beautiful story they’re telling for Buck and Eddie. And it’s so wholesome to see two masculine men who explore and embrace their sexualities later on in life. And that they happened to find that love and connection with their best friend possibly. Yall cannot catch me closing on these two ever because no fucking partner can match the love and commitment they have to each other. They are going to go down in history as one of the greatest love stories on television. We’re all here witnessing history being made.

I’m more convinced than anything that Oliver was literally trying to not give anything concise away, which is why he said what he said about whether or not he wants Buddie to happen. His body language when he brings up the fact that he doesn’t know what’s going on with Eddie storyline was very much that he’s lying and trying to cover it up by making it seem like he’s very nonchalant and not in the know of what’s happening. When in fact, he does know what’s happening. They’re gonna keep and guard the secret with their lives. And he’s not gonna tell someone in an interview that he really hopes that Buck and Eddie get together especially when his character on the show is currently dating someone else. His body language throughout that entire question is very fascinating to me because you can tell there’s some sort of internal struggle with him, but he keeping a very professional face and answering that question. He kept stuttering and trying to come up with an answer that doesn’t give too much away. He’s not letting his true feelings come to the surface. Him simply acknowledging that they have great chemistry and he doesn’t write the show but go in whatever direction is written just solidifies that it’s happening. It’s in the books.

Oliver on whether he hopes there’s a future for Buck and Eddie on The Zach Sang Show, 4.19.24

No but why do I feel like there’s definitely something that’s gonna happen between Buck and Eddie during the bachelor party. Now I’m not saying there will be actual cheating involved. But imagine they’re so happy and having fun, letting go, enjoying each other’s company. And maybe there’s a moment in which they look into each other’s eyes and something just *clicks* Maybe even they both lean in for an almost kiss but something happens and *poof* it gets interrupted. Obviously there’s more drinking and they both knock out and when they wake up, there’s the concern over Chimney missing so they clearly don’t remember anything from the previous night. Shit happens, things are hectic and neither Buck or Eddie recall their almost kiss in the midst of chaos. But then, then maybe they make eye contact during the vows and boom, it all comes back to them. The longing in their eyes, the way they felt alive next to each other, the almost kiss. Maybe it happens at the wedding when they’re dancing with their respective dates and can’t keep their eyes off each other? Or maybe it happens a bit later but I feel like that’ll be a wonderful catalyst for each man separately. And to further it along, Eddie seeing Buck with Tommy would quicken the turmoil he’s facing within him. Yeah it’ll be chefs kiss tbh.

Oliver Stark on the Zach Sang Show!! 4.19.14

Oh 7.06 is gonna be SO good for us Buddie fans. We’re gonna get Buck with his arm around Eddie while they’re drinking.

Then we’re gonna get Eddie’s arm around Buck while they’re singing karaoke.

It’s like these idiots truly don’t understand the definition of personal space. And we love to see it. They’re getting closer than ever 😉