[240419] xuminghao_o Instagram Update

god there's a RUMOR that minghao and jun will be part of youth periplous S5 and I want it to be true so bad but also I feel like ppl are just making up melons that they know fans want to hear for the sake of engagement and the real cast will be completely different 🥲

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[240418] saythename_17 Instagram Update

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[240418] dk_is_dokyeom Instagram Update

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I agree their album concepts seem pretty consistent with their music (lack of lore, more rooted in reality), plus i also think that more recent ones (FTS, FML, and Seventeenth Heaven in particular) matched the overall concept/themes of the albums well. Hell ive basically given a whole dissertation to my friend about FTS and FML concepts fitting into their overall narrative. I do admit I'm easy to please so i just like their faces lol but yeah its been nothing but complaints since i got here in 2020 😭 i do see people enjoy stuff so its never been 100% negative but those that are negative are LOUD. Should there be improvements? Yeah sure but like the stuff thats complained about never is what really matters half the time

I will however push my "give every kpop idol a sword" agenda tho bc i wanna see them with swords

yes exactly! and yeah that's true, it's never 100% negative, which is also why i think a lot of it comes down to personal preference and not bad design. bc there have been times i haven't liked a certain design choice or concept photo but i see others praise it and vice versa... but yeah it's just the fact that every comeback it feels like there's a loud group of ppl acting like the the album design or concept photos are the most boring things ever and it's the end of the world when it's really not that serious. and it's okay to not like things without making a big deal out of it or ruining others' fun

and i also totally think it's fine to wish for a certain concept! i too would like to see svt with swords!! but also 9 years into svt's career and they still stick to a pretty realistic concept and don't have lore... i feel like people shouldn't be shocked and upset every comeback that this is the case (and i was just using swords as an example i'm not directing this at you specifically)

like maybe it's time for some people to accept that if they want super crazy fantastical concept photos they shouldn't look to svt for that bc it's just not part of their brand. and if some day they do a concept like that i'm sure it will be super fun and cool and we will all be excited! but people shouldn't be upset when we don't get that since svt and pledis have given us no reason to have that expectation and that is also okay. and it doesn't mean the design or concepts themselves are inherently bad

i got into svt during ready to love era and i've felt since i've joined this fandom there's been so much negativity about everything. it kinda made me think that svt built such a good relationship with their fans that it became parasocial to the point that if a fan dislikes something then it makes them nasty and very upset despite taste and interests being subjective. i've been so annoyed with the immense and aggressive negativity since i joined being a carat. some can be so mean and then they'll hate on other carats for having a good time 😭

the sad thing is it wasn't always this bad in my experience. like I feel like it wasn't as bad in 2017-2018 when I first joined the fandom (though to be fair I also wasn't on Twitter then so that might make a difference lol). I feel like it's gotten worse as the fandom has gotten bigger and I do think to some extent that's unavoidable

but there are other factors as well, and I feel like to some extent you're right that the parasocial relationship could play a part. I feel like part of it is that fans conflate their personal wants with the wants of the members themselves and get mad when those wants aren't met when it's really not a big deal

for example, people being mad the jeonghan doesn't really go on variety shows individually bc they thought pledis was like, neglecting him or something. only for jeonghan to come out and say he doesn't like/feel comfortable making individual variety appearances and asked to not have those schedules. ppl don't complain about it as much since then, but there are a lot of other examples like that of ppl just assuming what a member wants or what's best for the group, usually just based on their own wants

but regardless of the reason, I'm sorry that's been your experience in the fandom ;-; I do think there are good pockets of the fandom, you just have to find them or carve one out for yourself. but I would also just like to encourage everyone to be aware of their own negativity in the fandom. it doesn't mean you can never have complaints, but we're all here to have fun at the end of the day, and I think everyone would have a better time if we focused a little bit more on the fun parts of being in this fandom 🙏

getting kind of tired of carats complaining about album designs/concept photos being bad literally every comeback. like I get it, pretty much every comeback there are at least a couple concept photos I don't like either, and album designs over the years have been hit or miss for me too

but idk this has been going on since... at least 2019 from my personal memory if not earlier?? and it's tiring. especially when I think a lot of it comes down to personal preference. (I'd also argue some of it comes down to svt's concept being more grounded in reality/somewhat autobiographical compared to other groups. not that it makes all the designs inherently good but I do think it's like apples and oranges when comparing svt's concept photos to other groups that have more fantastical concepts and storylines which a lot of fans like to do)

anyway not saying everyone has to pretend to like things they don't but just want to ask everyone to be conscious to not overdo it on the negativity and maybe go out of your way to talk about parts of the design/concept photos you do like as well so we can all have fun with the cb

[240417] junhui_moon Instagram Update

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[240417] min9yu_k Instagram Update

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