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dueling-jesters · 2 days

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Some in the fandom might "support m-preg". I support m-abortion. We are not the same.

#spy vs spy #black spy #white spy #spy x spy #i must stress that this is a joke #another phone doodle! someone please take this device away

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dueling-jesters · 3 days

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A plastered spy and his designated driver

#spy vs spy #spy x spy #black spy #white spy #I've been extremely busy as of late and haven't been able to use my computer to finish art #so have a rough phone doodle instead!

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dueling-jesters · 7 days

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I discussed this earlier on my private twitter account, and I think it's worth mentioning here as well.

The Defection Comic/ Short has been fresh on the mind lately, and I just picked up on a small detail, first noticed in the animated adaptation:

It's quite an interesting detail, being a signature likely penned by Black Spy. Albeit only slightly legible, it can be assumed to be read as "Joke". I attempted to recreate the signature with that intention (although not perfectly):

To confirm any suspicion, I decided to cross-reference sources with Prohías's original comic. The signature appears slightly different, somewhat more ambiguous:

It could be confirmation bias, but I still find myself reading it as "Joke".

I have always wondered what specifically led to the fanbase somewhat agreeing upon Joke and Dagger being Black Spy and White Spy's names, respectively, and I may have just realized what sparked it.

I'd love to hear other's thoughts on this!

#spy vs spy #black spy #ace's ramblings #headcanon

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dueling-jesters · 16 days

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I know I have posted multiple times in reference to Black Spy being (likely unintentionally) canonically a bottom via the handkerchief code. Part of it is that I find it hilarious that it's somewhat canon, being a wordless comic that's the closest we could possibly get to a character outright declaring themself as such without for lack of better word, seeing them in-action.

Another part of it, though, is out of smugness in knowing the majority of the fandom is absolutely fucking wrong in their assumptions of the characters (if we are to believe the hanky usage is canon). I'm able to mentally categorize the fetishizing bullshit (or at least, a large mass of it) as something wildly incorrect.

Again, is this biased? Most definitely. However, if you have witnessed this fandom's behavior throughout the past two and a half decades, you may understand why someone would feel disturbed by it.

I don't want to force people to discontinue any headcanons that I simply disagree with, but at least my (generally unpopular) headcanon holds some credence, albeit in a mildly humorous way.

What are your thoughts on women romanticising or fetishising gay men via shipping. And when you draw the line when this happened. (Sorry for bad english)

Anyone who's been following me since I started this blog knows that I'm personally annoyed with the fetishization of gay people that has run rampant in fandom spaces for decades. Shipping on its own is completely fine, but I think it becomes something of an issue when people use it to implement harmful stereotypes or to hurt someone directly.

One way I often see is when some people will take two male characters and change their appearance and personalities to project heteropatriarchal standards upon them, essentially turning them into a stand-in for an abusive straight couple. This is, of course, an extreme example.

One related form of it is,via headcanon, the association of body type, personalities, and sexual positions (i.e., making the shorter or curvier male character more feminine, weak, and submissive). This oftentimes overlaps with fandom racism (making a darker-skinned character aggressive and abusive) and transphobia (people who have a trend of making all of their transmasculine-headcanoned characters soft, submissive bottoms exclusively paired with cis-male-headcanoned characters).

One of the most obvious indicators of someone doing this is if they are obsessed over whoever is the top and who is the bottom in a way that's one step from asking "But who really is the guy and who's the girl in the relationship?". This becomes incredibly apparent when a multishipper exclusively headcanons submissive/feminine bottoms and dominant/masculine tops, devoid of any variety or versatility. It's a telltale sign that someone may not care what gay people are actually like in reality.

This doesn't necessarily mean that top and bottom headcanons are inherently fetishizing, but rather, when there is an amalgamation of it being a fandom member's main priority in shipping alongside reinforcing heteronormative stereotypes.

I personally think it's fine for someone to be primarily focused on shipping characters in fandom. It's extremely common for lgbt+ fans to project their experiences onto characters or to otherwise feel connected to them through shipping-even if they're of a different gender/ orientation. (Cisgender, heterosexual fans can be avid shippers as well without harming gay people!) A fan lusting over a character and shipping through projection is not inherently problematic, either. Perhaps my stance is biased as I am guilty of both. There could be a grey area or situations that may seem suspicious if taken out of context.

The perpetrators of fetishization are not exclusively women, nor should they be blamed for it as a whole. Just as some gay people are homophobic, and some trans people are transphobic, there are occasionally members of our community who treat gayness and/or transness as an "othering" quality- whether they separate themselves from the rest of us in doing so, or if it's a form of internalized bigotry.

There are, of course, plenty of cisgender, heterosexual men who display a similar, dehumanizing attitude towards lesbians and bisexual women - whether through media or in-person. In its entirety, this is not a fandom-exclusive phenomenon.

Fetishizing behavior has been weaponized in harassment and abuse towards gay people. Essentially, the preconceived bigotries and assumptions one may have fuel harmful stereotypes cast upon fictional characters, which in turn reinforce one's beliefs and can result in one holding the same assumptions about actual people. I won't go into much detail, but I have personally experienced and witnessed sexual harassment from self-proclaimed allies and fellow members of the lgbt community due to fanfiction-influenced mindsets.

In many aspects, I think the fetishization of gay men in fandom runs parallel to the patriarchal gaze prevalent in similar spaces - although it can absolutely converge at times. It can definitely make someone who would otherwise participate as a fan, or even as a shipper, feel alienated.

#self reblog #ace's ramblings #i hope its okay that im not putting community labels on this post? i don't think it's too inappropriate nor graphic #long post #Also!!! Side note: If you haven't read the full post please understand that I disagree with singling out women as sole perpetrators #there's already enough misogyny in fandoms as there is. i don't want to place the blame exclusively on women.#especially when lesbians share similar treatment in many fan spaces.#not angry with the anon! just wanted to clarify

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dueling-jesters · 17 days

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why do fandoms seem so inclined to portray the character with a lighter color scheme as increasingly feminine and submissive at the same rate as their portrayal of the character with a darker color scheme as toxically masculine, predatory, creepy, and sometimes even sexually violent. surely it isn't rooted in any sort of fucked up social dynamics or narratives society's been pushing for ages, right? ......right?

#self reblog #in relation to my most recent ask!#time is a circle