I love that the Luxon was not only worshipped by the Dynasty. Having completly different people find a Beacon and create a completly different religion that still fits with what the Luxon is gives it so much more texture. While the Dynasty strive to collect all parts of the Luxon (aka the Beacons) this group Opal's mother was part of split their souls in imitation of what the Luxon did. Also the reveal that Ted and Opal were the same person is just cool.

The funniest people are the ones shipping Percy & Vex or Caleb & Essek but decrying now how they don't like Imogen & Laudna because of how toxic they are. Every CR campaign had a less healthy romantic pairing and in C1 and in C2 they became the most famous ships. But suddenly in C3 people feel the need to dumb Imogen and Laudna down to their most toxic traits.

I think Ashley made it pretty clear that the two main things stopping Fearne taking the shard were her believing Ashton was supposed to have it and her being afraid becoming like Dark!Fearne or like her father. Then Ashton almost died and the shard rejected them. After that and after the trials BH made sure that everyone knew that they would keep each other in check. On top of that Laudna made sure to comfort her by saying to her that she wasn't her father.

Also Fearne said she wanted the shard after Imogen apologized for saying she was disappointed for her not taking it. Imogen was giving her a way out but Fearne didn't take it. Instead she accepted the shard. Nobody pushed her to do it. Her only reservations about it were both addressed.

And this is me interpreting but I think the reason why Fearne was so resistent to take the shard was because she wanted it. She was afraid that this would lead her to a dark path so she doubted her own wants.

Gosh now people are starting to say we’re babying Fearne.

No we are considerate of her choice.

They’re saying that she wasn’t being pushed by bh. And that she was just challenged and rose to meet it.

She didn’t rise to her challenge she gave into it. Yes she chose to take the shard I’m not against her changing her mind. I’m against what led her to saying she would.

It makes me so angry. Once again my friendship tattoo analogy. Would you force your friend who is afraid of needs to get a tattoo just to prove your friendship.

The way Liam talks about Orym and the little moments (aka where he let go of the reminder that the Ruby Vanguard are people too) are signs that he is not doing good. He is just repressing all his feelings and keeps moving forward. I don't need a complete mental breakdown but I would find it very strange if he just didn't deal with his obvious emotional turmoil.

idk if others feel this way about him but like, I don't want Orym to reach breaking point? I would prefer if he remains an inspiration on how to keep your head up high and strive for doing good no matter how harshly life has treated you and I don't want him to suffer more and more till he snaps. I'd rather he keeps rebuilding himself one step at a time without breaking down entirely before he gets to do that. I don't want his story to be that everyone, even the most tender souls, will always resort to hate and violence eventually.

I don't get why so many people say Ashley and/or Fearne didn't want the shard. That was never said. Both player and characters (for different reasons) had doubts about taking it for multiple reasons. Above the table Ashley felt like she was taking something away from Taliesin. In character Fearne is worried about becoming Dark!Fearne. Both those things are not a complete refusal. If Ashton wasn't so keen on taking the burden on themself after Fearne pushed a little back because of her worries, they could have talked it through. Fearne could have come to a similar decision like Laudna with Delilah.

Also these doubts probably come from everybody in character acted like the shard already belonged to Fearne without checking in with her enough.

Nothing I said means someone at the table did something wrong. All the character's actions make sense.

It took me until today to understand but Trent really made a deal with the Chained Oblivion and thought he was in control. To see how Tren twisted his teachings so much that it was basically an invitation for the Chained Oblivion is also a good visualization of how horrid his POV actually is.

I agree with almost everything. But I don't think the scene in Volume 1 is that out of character. To me it actually reinforces how unsure she is of herself in that regard. She made a stupid joke about what her Dad would think and (to me) Yang is the person who would perform being actually interested in boys beyond thinking what her Dad would think to deliver that joke. But that is immediatly followed up with Yang meeting Blake where she is actually pretty nervous which shows what she is like when she is actually interested in someone, even if she herself doesn't know it at the time. As for tricking the audience to think she is a party girl. That was probably part of the point of that scene but as I already said, I do think it fits with Yang's joking side.

I do agree that the joke wasn't worth the amount of misinterpretations there are out there. I mean even my own interpretation could be completly wrong.

people really have an issue with yang not being a lesbian playgirl? she had abandonment issues and a tragic family background, like what made some of you think she ever prioritized her romantic life (flirt/flings/love alike) in any way? i think she's very clearly terrified of all that, and maybe some people have deviated too much from canon or just projected too much onto her, honestly.

that damned wink at random guys early on has done irreparable damage to this fandom, in that, it convinced everyone of a different hc:

• "oh she's bi/pan/het"

• "oh she has hetero-normativity and is a lesbian"

• "oh she's just a player and a flirt"

Turns out everyone is wrong and she's neither of these things because her disaster ass could not get close to a man OR girl due to her personal issues, she hasn't even paid attention to who she could like. blake is the only person she's ever liked, trusted and loved, and that only happened because she was "forced" so close to her when they became partners that she couldn't ignore the feelings!

like i think the point is that, being all confident in yourself and stuff doesn't mean you got it all figured out, and it shows when despite being this huge cocky personality...you don't flirt once with someone that isn't blake ???? come on it was cristal clear that she had no interest in flirting or dating if it wasn't blake. she didn't even flirt back (sarcastically) at neon in V3 !!! like if she was truly a flirt that would have been the perfect chance to respond.

this is why that scene with the guys early on is so random, like completely out of character to me. it would be interesting to see how crwby would comment on that line nowadays, bc my impression is that the scene was a weak attempt at tricking the audience into thinking she's a party girl and then show you later that she's actually "more than meets the eye".

anyways rant over

I always wondered if there was more behind Neo's powerup because while it made sense why she was able to wield it so well, the Ever After resonating with her so much always felt a little random. But finding out (through the Blu Ray commentary of Volume 9) that the dark arce she landed on was the Gods abandoned experiement acre makes the powerup make so much more sense without diminishing Neo as a character. The acre she landed on resonated with her as a human because both she and it where created by the gods. But due to her Semblence she still was able to use that to her advantage in ways other people wouldn't have been able to.

Also the design of the dark acre and the Jabberwalker running around and saying "fix" makes it such a tragic figure. An abandoned experiment running around in this disused place looking at pieces of it. But just like the Cat it is forced to carry out its purpose until Neo kills it.

Fuck the Gods.

When did she say that? You say that with so much confidence but I don't remember her ever saying that. As far as I remember, the struggle was for Marisha to let Laudna do what she would do while she didn't want to do something like that to the character of a friend.

Also Marisha played Laudna in that moment as her barely noticing anything so you saying the nod sealed Bor'Dor's fate doesn't make any sense.

I know a lot of people took issue with Orym basically encouraging Laudna to use her power knowing she potentially could call for Delilah. And I get that to a point. BUT a lot of people seem think Laudna will also be upset or at least want to call Orym out on that which completly misconstrues what happened: Laudna was barely paying any attention when she was about to kill Bor'Dor. She didn't even acknowledge Orym. She went through with it on her own volition. She made the choice, not Orym.

I know a lot of people took issue with Orym basically encouraging Laudna to use her power knowing she potentially could call for Delilah. And I get that to a point. BUT a lot of people seem think Laudna will also be upset or at least want to call Orym out on that which completly misconstrues what happened: Laudna was barely paying any attention when she was about to kill Bor'Dor. She didn't even acknowledge Orym. She went through with it on her own volition. She made the choice, not Orym.

Most of the Imodna hate boils down to buzzwords that mean nothing. For example: They get called "bland" but when you read explanations about that you realise these people just can't deal with the fact that Imogen and Laudna actually support each other and don't have romance tropes as part of their relationship. Characters in fiction don't actually have to hate or resent each other most of the time and suddenly realise they actually love each other to have an interesting relationship. And they get called toxic because they are "codependent" which makes even less sense. Since when have characters who are codepentent automatically the most toxic relationship? They are codependent in the same way Pike and Grog or Vex and Vax are codependent and I have not seen anyone call them toxic. And no, them prioritizing each other over everyone else in BH does not prove they are toxic, just that they have a pretty intimate relationship. Not every adventure party has to become the perfect found family where everyone loves everyone else equally. Campaign 3 and Imodna as a romance is much more complicated and some people don't seem to want to accept.

At least you are acknowledging your bias toward Sam's actions. Because you (and a lot of other people) seem to be the most annoyed by his actions while Marisha just roleplays Laudna's reaction and moves on. And on a meta level Sam knew nothing more than just Laudna having to run would happen. And FCG doesn't know what "Turn Undead" does to Laudna so all their in character comments are not as disrespectful as you seem to think. This is how Sam does most of his roleplay: He let's his character do or say something that makes them seem disrespectful, rude or clueless while these characters have no clue they seem that way because only Sam knows the context. He has done that multiple times with all of his characters and the cast never seemed to be actually angry at Sam for that.

The reaction to FCG casting turn undead and it affecting Laudna is wild to me. They were on an island surrounded by undead, it would have been absurd for him to not cast it.

The discourse has also made me realize that a lot of people watch the show for very different reasons than me. I love interparty conflict. Some of my favorite moments from every campaign has been when an argument or fight breaks out between the characters. The cast is so good at embracing the tension and staying true to their character's stance even if they're wrong or escalating the situation and I eat it up every time. These characters can't grow without conflict and, especially in campaign 3, will walk on eggshells around each other unless everyone knows how the party feels about something.

It seems like a lot of people only watch the show for their favorite characters or for the romance (which to clear is completely fine. I'm not saying that people are enjoying the show wrong or that I'm watching it the right way). The cast have said before that they also love conflict and have made it clear that they will stay true to their character in tense moments. Some fans have a tendency to purposefully misinterpret actions and motivations or disregard any trauma that a character has experienced that might explain their behavior. Laudna is allowed to hate the gods and has every reason to, but the first decision FCG ever made for themself was to follow the Changebringer. It makes perfect sense that hearing her, and some other characters to a lesser extent, talk negatively about the Changebringer is frustrating after they've been constantly FCG that he needs to make choices for himself. That doesn't mean that FCG is right or the Laudna is wrong, but their actions and beliefs make sense.

It's also wild how no one is talking about how Fearne almost didn't heal FCG because of turn undead. There's been a lot of talk about how pettiness is her love language but putting your friend's life at risk because he made Laudna run into ocean is more than petty. She ultimately healed them so it's not a huge deal but she established that she values Laudna more than FCG.

I hope they talk about the fight next episode so everyone is on the same page about turn undead and what's going to happen next time they encounter undead.

You know what annoys me the most of the people with their long metas about how Imogen is a terrible person and Imodna is either boring or unhealthy? These metas sound so self-important. Like they cracked the secret interpretation of these characters and relationships. Seriously, they say stuff like how the most development for Imodna was in all the microexpressions Laura and Marisha did (while completly ignoring all the other takes and metas about why their relationship actually is seen as so great) while at the same time they misinterpret all the actions Imogen takes in the most negative light and at the same time lift people like Imogen's father up and try to make him some kind of complex character when all we know is that he was a bad dad. Sure, he was is a terrible situation with Liliana leaving him alone and not knowing how to deal with his daughters powers but his inaction lead to Imogen feeling allinated from a whole village.

I am pretty happy I blocked most of these people already. I mean sure, they can have their own takes on characters and relationships. But the way they talk about it is inconsistent and relies on a lot of misintepretation and ignoring of canon events. They can't just seem to be able to say that something isn't to their taste.

Something to remember (I am writing this for my benefit too): Imogen and Laudna had always the type of relationship where they will check in frequently and have big emotional talks that reafirm their relationship but in between those check-ins they seem comforable to just exist and show their care for each other in little easy to miss moments. So it makes sense that they are not immediatly seeking each other out. Because out of all CR couples their relationship didn't really change. Their shift from being friends to having a romantic relationship was pretty natrual.

So I expect them to have a one-on-one moment during downtime in Zephrah, if they play that out. And I think they will because Orym wanted to visit Will and Derrig's grave and Ashton wants to get their new clothes. If the downtime gets not played out but instead they just hit the highlights before continuing their journey, I do think the first night watch they have will lead to an one-on-one moment.

I haven't seen anyone talk about it but did Matt confirm in the introduction of Episode 67 the time difference between the two groups? He said something about "burst in time" while describing the two groups.

So the Tordotcom Twitter just confirmed that the short story in the Nona the Ninth paperback will be about a very annoyed Ianthe having to deal with Pal. An I am really excited about that!

Taliesin mentioned during the SDCC Panel that Ashton has figured out what one of his symbols he has seen in his dreams and has on his jacket means. I have found a picture of said symbol on the Ashton Dice Guardian. It looks like an hourglass with a circle around it. It seems to indicate something connected to Dunemancy. But do we know what exactly this symbol means? It it a symbol of some part of organisation?