charlie-rulerofhell
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"Drying Off"
Daniel helps Armand dry off after a shower in my third and final illustration for "Silver Lining" by @graygiantess . And it only took, like, half a fucking year! Hope it's worth it.
LINK to the story: Silver Lining - GrayGiantess - Interview with the Vampire (TV 2022) [Archive of Our Own]
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why is this so funny
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you could say they knew eachother
#iwtv#armand#daniel molloy#iwtv fanart#why did i read DM as devil‘s minion instead of daniel molloy first?#huh doesn‘t make a difference anyway i suppose#cannot wait for their interactions in the next season(s)#especially because assad and luke seem to be vibing pretty well so i‘m almost certain those two are more than excited to break our hearts#pretty art
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Imagine being so casually extra.
#if i was on a date with my boyfriend and he‘d rather be flying around than walking up the steps with me#i‘d also want my ex boyfriend by my side — even if he‘s the kind of freak who always has to take two steps at a time#armand#iwtv
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Was this not an actual line Daniel said?
#no but the thing is this COULD be something daniel would say and it‘s why i love him so much#i bet he was already a snarky motherfucker back then (we haven‘t seen that much of young daniel yet but he was an unsuccessful author /#journalist spending his time interviewing people so how could he not be a bitch?)#but he clearly developed that i don‘t give a fuck level of snarkyness over the years#and i‘m sure armand is ENTHRALLED by it#daniel is so very human. with all his ups and downs — his humour and his pettiness his taking-no-shit-attitude his courage and his failures#i want to see armand get lost in it. in his humanity.#i want him trying to keep his guards up because this has been good before but it hasn‘t worked out now has it? but every witty remark#every intellectual debate that daniel leads every self-pitying joke every crack in his composure making it so hard for armand to withhold#you all want to see 'the old man getting fucked by the young vampire'? i wanna see armand fall.#i wanna see him struggle and break and make all the same mistakes a second time despite his better judgment#because there‘s no way he can resist that perfectly human man#daniel molloy#armand
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also hilarous tidbit from amsterdam yesterday: during blood and glitter chris yelled "sceam for me liverpool" to which he got some very confused yells from the audience 😂
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I'd like you to meet the vampire Armand
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#same energy
#love this comparison a lot and was honestly thinking the same when seeing both scenes for the first time#but i don‘t get all the comments going 'louis only picks self-obsessed bfs / won‘t allow you to ever talk or think about anyone else …'#because for one these two scenes are not really comparable on that level and two it‘s not really fitting for either#and i don‘t wanna say that both of them cannot be manipulative bastards doing everything to get louis‘s attention#but both of their reactions here are totally valid (on armand‘s end even more so than on lestat‘s since he caused a lot of it himself)#lestat never wanted claudia. and for louis claudia is mostly a way to his own personal redemption.#to righten the wrongs he did to the black community of storyville the pain he caused his own family the arguments with lestat#so when claudia runs away it‘s as if louis lost the purpose of his existence. his one means to make up for it all.#and louis starts neglecting everything around him. his own life. lestat‘s life. their relationship.#is lestat a stubborn manipulative absuive bf who caused most of these problems himself? absolutely#but that mf stayed with louis and claudia for decades despite getting little love or happiness out of it for himself#and armand? at this moment in time here he‘s already together woth louis for roughly 30 years#they meet some journalist in a bar and louis wants to tell him his life story#fine go ahead love there‘s plenty of fun stories of both of us that you can chose from#but no. no stories of armand. 30 years don‘t matter when louis has lost the love of his life.#and it‘s kinda funny because we saw louis call armand the love of his life but witnessing this — and we heard the old tapes#the obsessive hatred that louis talks with about lestat. the kind of pain that is only born out of the deepest love.#and armand hearing it and knowing that he will never change that. and still staying together with louis for almost 50 more years because he#he loves him still (and he loves lestat) and yes louis loves him but he knows there is a darkness in louis‘s heart caused#by lestat‘s absence that armand will never fill no matter what he does#and again — is armand gaslighting and manipulating and memory-erasing his way through their relationship? probably#he is loves louis just as lestat loved louis. but damn it must hurt to have the louis's feelings so plainly in front of you.#and perhaps in the end louis himself is the most self-centred of the three of them and perhaps that is what causes a lot of their problems#and tbh i wouldn‘t wanna have it any other way cause it‘s exactly this complexity of the characters that made me fall in love with the show#iwtv#armand#lestat de lioncourt#louis de pointe du lac
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guys hot uquiz was just discovered but I'm taking it about 100 yrs too late. anyways everyone share how wifeable you are.
THE WIFE RATING SCALE 1929
#wait i also got 0 what did i do?? 😭#i‘m kind good conversationer i even like kids come on!#you won‘t go to bed early with me or have dinner ready on time because there will never be anything on time here#but i‘ll make you laugh okay — that should be considered best wife material#getting diagnosed with 'failure as a wife' by some 100 year old test is funny though cause yeah i know that‘s like the whole thing#can i show this to my therapist next time?
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#thevampirearmand #interviewwiththevampire
#literal angel#like not one of those cute little cherub angels#but an otherworldly ethereal high fantasy angel#also the quality of the video here is gorgeous#armand#iwtv#assad zaman#inspo
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How Armand's AMC background might work with the changes
TW: Mentions of physical, sexual, and religious abuse. You know, Armand stuff.
Age
First off, it’s not that big a deal for Armand to be aged up for his turning.
I’ve said it before, but being turned, especially very young, can be considered analogous to arrested development caused by trauma. In the books, getting this across is helped by repeatedly describing a teenager doing/saying these immature things. In live action media, though, it can be conveyed in a performance. A bit like how The Umbrella Academy removed Klaus’ ability to float because it was a metaphor for him being constantly high, and Robert Sheehan’s performance conveyed his state of mind so well they didn’t need the visual aid.
Armand is still developmentally frozen in places at those times some new trauma came about—pre-adolescent with the sheer hardship of his childhood, thirteenish with the monks (or equivalent in the show if they keep that bit), also thirteenish getting sex trafficked, then again whenever the Children of Darkness/Satan overturn his life. Throughout this entire time, the only time he was safe enough to have normal-ish emotional development was during his relationship with Marius, and it didn’t happen because his need for safety meant him foreclosing on whatever identity he thought Marius would want him to have, and relying on Marius to regulate his emotions instead of learning to regulate them himself. No matter how safe Marius is compared with the rest of Armand’s life, Marius isn’t a psychotherapist and is too flattered by Armand’s total dependence on him to reliably break him of it. He’s too busy cuddling him and feeding him soup instead of teaching him how to self-soothe, having the same expectations of him as he would have with an adult: that he already knows how to do the things he needs to do in order to be a person.
All this to say Armand isn’t necessarily going to be significantly more mature just because he was turned older, especially since Marius was enabling his emotional dependence on him.
The only difference I could see miiiight be if he spends significantly more time under Marius’ tutelage. Marius is the only person in his entire life who actually tries to teach him right from wrong, and it’s pretty critical to his character that it didn’t take. Marius himself notes this at one point during the “banquet” scene, seeing Armand is trying to react how he thinks his master wants him to react, not being properly horrified by people dying. If Marius has time to actually correct this (which, who knows how long that would take, Armand has been stuck permanently in this state for a long time already), that could make a difference to his characterization. But the likelihood of Marius successfully teaching him right from wrong was always pretty damn low, given how his method is “Do something heinous, get mad if Amadeo doesn’t cry.”
Origins
This is a little tricky, but it ultimately boils down to one thing: religion.
He’s Turkic, and it’s plausible for him to be Crimean Tatar, but he couldn’t have been trafficked by them the way he was in the books.
Among Turkic people in Armand’s day, an extremely common language, both speaking and in literature, was Chagatai. This was spoken among Muslims in eastern Europe, as well as central Asia, the Caucasus, and the Ottoman Empire. Today, Chagatai is a dead language, and while there are experts, it’s entirely possible your dramaturg won’t be able to contact one. If that’s the case, what modern language is the most similar? Turns out, Uyghur and Uzbek.
What language does Armand end his prayer in in Dubai? Uzbek.
If Armand is indeed Muslim (which would be the most narratively satisfying option—for him to be forcibly converted in his early life and find his own religion again later), you did have a more diverse population among Crimean Tatars back then than we have today, especially since Stalin’s genocide. You had some who came from as far south as Iran, where you can get people as dark as Assad, even if it’s uncommon. But it being uncommon (aka “exotic”) would be all the more reason he’d get targeted for sex trafficking.
Speaking of. Islamic and Christian laws forbade enslaving someone of the same faith. So whoever kidnaps him in this version of events is almost certainly Christian. The Venetians had a slave trade that was leaving the area for Africa due to the conquest of Constantinople by the Ottomans, but with a little wiggling of decades, we can imagine there were still Venetian slavers raiding the Black Sea. Since Armand ends up in Venice, this would make particular sense.
One more thing remains: the monks of the Caves. An order which, as far as I’m aware, only existed in Kiev. Why would a little Muslim boy be tempted to join an order of Christian monks? I mean, Islam definitely has its own brands of asceticism, but if we’re trying to make as few changes as possible, I’d still buy it being these monks. Speaking as someone who was raised evangelical, children are often targeted in the hopes of converting the entire family. I have no idea how likely that would be for a bunch of Eastern Orthodox monks and a Muslim family way back when, but personally, I’d buy it.
Realistically, would he still live near Kiev (which was part of Lithuania at this time) if he’s from the Crimean Khanate? Probably not. But I wouldn’t sweat it. And I can’t find whether there were any other Muslim groups who lived in/near Kiev.
Timeline
Show!Armand was turned older, so there are years that must be accounted for. I think he must have been trafficked at a similar age as in the books, because it makes the most sense—he’s very young, but old enough that he doesn’t have to be “raised” anymore. So he either spent longer in the brothel, or with Marius, or the years are split between. If it’s at the brothel, they might kick him out once he gets older, and Marius rescues him off the streets instead of from the brothel. Instead, or in conjunction, he could spend more time with Marius. My concern is, if the underage aspect of their relationship is cut, it could sanitize Marius too much. Armand isn’t meant to have any models for healthy relationships in his history, and Marius expecting a kid to meet his emotional needs the way an adult would, in addition to the power discrepancies so typical of pederastic relationships in Marius’ time, explains a lot about both characters.
On the other hand, I don’t want too many flashbacks where a younger actor is playing Armand. I want to see Assad tackle as much as possible. He is so damn good.
Then there’s also the complication mentioned above of how vital it is that Armand never learned right from wrong. And they are still bound by what the network will permit (a reason I’m not sure Claudia’s “surgery” will take place).
It’s possible they could just leave the timeline vague. Assad is babyfaced enough for it to be ambiguous how old he is at any given time. I wouldn’t want it to be too vague, though, lest the effectiveness of either possible version of events be diminished.
Conclusion
I don’t have any conclusions about what they’ve chosen to do. These are all just possibilities. I think that’s valid in its own right.
All in all, I think they have a great opportunity to flip the stereotype of the brown person becoming more “civilized” because of white people and show Armand’s problems as being caused, in significant part, by losing his own identity and culture, and in total part by the imperialist ideals of the West.
Reading up on all of this history to figure out the possibilities has given me a greater appreciation for why they would make the choice to cast Armand as non-white. Armand may be white in the books, but he’s not Western, and even though I’m sure she didn't mean to, Anne did tap into that “the West is here to civilize everyone” narrative. It’s actually something Marius is (intentionally hypocritically) big on—“civilization.” He took this wild Eastern European kid from the shitty life that came to him because of non-white slavers (who were very much a big deal at the time, but they’ve been used to justify the beliefs of white supremacists since the time of Hitler) and gave him a happy, comfortable life, albeit via a deliberately creepy relationship. Here in the US, we don’t think of Eastern Europeans as “not white enough” the way they’ve been historically seen in Europe, so I doubt Anne realized she'd accidentally written a story about the “savage” child being victimized by a tribe of "evil" Mongols and rescued by an ”enlightened” white guy (though if you haven’t read the books, keep in mind that Marius is not nearly as enlightened as he believes and doesn’t spend all that much time in the “civilization” he supposedly treasures).
Flip that, make him Islamic, and his slavers must by necessity be Western, so the people who take apart his life are all coming from that angle of “we have the right to do this because we are better.” And it does not stop after he becomes a vampire. What’s harming Armand isn’t a series of unrelated catastrophes, but an entire culture of imperialism. The Golden Horde doesn’t exist today. Actual Crimean Tatars in the 21st century are oppressed minorities. But the imperialist mindset in Western culture remains, this idea that we are more “civilized” than others. And that’s something this show can actually speak to that will resonate.
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#pirated the system update#they wouldn‘t wanna give me the update by default so i just took it myself
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he's a special little guy
#jokes aside but this is exactly what i mean#the hunter. the seducer. the lost child.#the botticelli painting that will rip your throat out#cannot wait to see him (properly) in action#armand#iwtv
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How it started vs. How it's going
#i‘m so in love with the way assad plays armand and especially how he portrays these two sides of him#on the one hand there is this 500 year old vampire — a cult leader a manipulator a brutal killer — and you can see that in a few scenes from#the trailers and snippets of next season. when he lingers in the background stalking his prey out of the dark eyes half-closed unmoving#and then you have this child-like fragility and naivity such as here. when he makes himself as small and quiet as possible#looking down and then up at louis melting almost disappearing in his embrace#a man who was physically and sexually and psychologically abused from a young age scattering his mind and his memory and his personality#into a thousand fragments (memory is a monster doesn‘t only apply to louis now does it?)#there is the armand who hunts and controls and there is the armand who just craves to be hold and loved and taken care of#…. no wonder he falls for a man who develops a way too invested caring relationship way too quickly with the people he interviews#but who will also slap you right across the face when you provoke him too much …..#iwtv#anyway i‘m ready to see these two here as the old married couple that they are#armand#louis de pointe du lac
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Ok now we have a booping feature I propose to tumblr next ides of March we have a stabbing counter and the person with the most stabs gets crowned Caesar and the blog with the most stabbings gets crowned Brutus
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