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How badly did Louis xv treat his wife???
Tbh he was more just... Neglectful and ignored her throughout their marriage.
At first, it was very idyllic and they loved each other, but after giving birth the first time to Louise Elisabeth and Anne Henriette, Cardinal Fleury (who absolutely hated her) decided that until she gave birth to a boy, she wouldn't be allowed to leave Versailles. Louis XV did nothing, and it took 3 years for Maria to have a son. Also, what the hell is up with that? She had twin daughters and suddenly she *needs* to have a boy?? Have some patience, she's working on it!
She was very shy, I mean who wouldn't be when faced with the King of France. She wasn't really raised as a Princess- she was raised in a small house with very few servants with her parents, grandmother, and I'm not sure if her sister Anna was dead yet.
Louis XV cheated on her quite a lot, which I know is normal for monarchy but it is worth mentioning. After the birth of Princess Louise (her last child) she almost died, and she was advised to not have anymore children, and after that she refused access to her bedchamber for the King.
One book says,
At certain times, vigils, feasts and days consecrated to the memory of illustrious saints, she demanded- well, let us call it a "respite" from the King's attentions. But gradually new saints of minor importance were invoked, and Louis XV became impatient. He did not chafe at the great elect, but he drew the line at all these petty saintlings. At first he was content with such a device as breathing on a mirror and writing on the fleeting mist, "Your Majesty is a proud minx"; but one night, pleading that it was a saint's day, the Queen refused to admit him to her bedchamber. "Madame," he shouted at her, you shall pay for this," and immediately commanded Lebel to go and fetch a woman, no matter whom. Lebel sped away, and soon returned with an amiable and tantalizing maid of the Princesse de Rohan, who undertook these supplementary duties with the most charming alacrity.
Also after Princess Louise's birth, Cardinal Fleury decided that the budget of Versailles was just too small to handle the extra daughters they had laying around, so obviously something had to be done to them, and not yknow, the king using so much of the budget for frivolous stuff. Adelaide, aged 6, Victoire, 5, Sophie, 4, Felicite, 2, and Louise, under a year old were chosen to leave.
Maria, who had a particular attachment to Adelaide, guided her into running to her father after mass and begging him to let her stay. It worked, but none of her other children were allowed to stay. Despite this, she often sent them gifts, and once they were old enough to yknow, read and write, sent them letters.
One letter from Sophie, which I believe was after Sophie properly met her later on in life, says:
My Dear Mamma, we have been this morning to the Carmelites : they have prayed to God for you, that nothing may happen to you on the road. I am very im- patient to arrive at Versailles ; for I assure you that it concerns me very much not to see you, since I love you, my dear Mamma, with all my heart. Be convinced of this I beg of you.
She loved her children, and they adored her too. Henriette, Louis, Adelaide, and Louis's first wife, Raphaelle particularly defended her against the growing faction of Madame de Pompadour, although their distaste didn't do anything in the eyes of Louis XV. Louis Ferdinand, the Dauphin of France, particularly wasn't very close with his father, seemingly mostly due to Louis XV's treatment of Maria and personality differences.
Louis Ferdinand was a mostly kind-hearted soul who enjoyed gardening, and didn't like hunting or cheating on his wife, which were two things that Louis XV enjoyed very much.
Louis XV comments:
My son is of an indolent disposition, and his temper, like that of most people with Polish blood in their veins, is quick and variable; he has no taste; he cares nothing for hunting, women, or good living. Perhaps he thinks that if he were in my position he would be happy. At first he would change everything, appear to make a fresh start in every particular, and would soon be tired of the position of King as he is now of his own. He is made to live like a philosophe with men of intellect; he likes to do good, he is really virtuous and intelligent.
Unlike what Louis XV thought his son thinks, Louis Ferdinand truly had no desire to reign. Apparently, on a lot of writings to his children, he begins, "If I ever have the misfortune to reign–"
I know this is an abrupt end but I have to leave my house rn- if I have more to add I will reblog!
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To the anon who asked how badly Louis XV treated Maria Leszczynska: I will be answering, l just need to gather the quotes, I'm a lil rusty when it comes to french history!
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This video is from 2021 but still holds true to this day.
It's of a Palestinian child telling an Israeli soilder to get off her land.
And this, this is unironically the biggest threat to Israel.
That the people of the world are not with them.
That they are exposed as the illegal occupation colonising land that does not belong to them, while they try to wipe out the indigenous Palestinian population.
A six year old child telling them this land isn't there's, that's what they are most afraid of.
50% of Gaza is made up of children like this.
This is who Israel want to wipe out.
Hamas even used a recording of 2 children speaking in Arabic and the Israeli soilders came running.
Not because they knew Hamas was there, but because they heard the sound of children and came running with their guns.
They are the terrorists.
They are the ones carpet combing civilians, killing Palestinians and Israeli civilians.
They are the monsters.
But they aren't feared.
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Haha!!! Small world, didn't think anyone would share my opinions!!
How do u feel about each of the various Bourbon kings and queens?
Ignoring Henry IV because I know absolutely goddamn 0 about him
Louis XVIII - Don't like him! Sounds like a dick. I know nothing about his rule though, just how he treated his wife, which was bad
Anne of Austria - She sounds pretty cool!!! I love her portraits, she's very very pretty
Louis XIV - I don't know enough about him to have an opinion but I do find it funny he's like. Idk, more popular nowadays with his mistresses than Louis XV is?
Marie Therese of Spain - She sounds. Very boring idk, I'm not interested in her personally
Louis XV - Oh wow the opinions I hold! Asshole! Asshole! Dick! Stop fucking calling your daughters pigs and rags! Stop trusting Fleury blindly and not allowing your wife to do ANYTHING! Stop trusting Fleury and stop letting him make it so that she can't leave Versailles just because she didn't give birth to a boy on her second pregnancy! What the fuck is wrong with you, you aren't even a good king! Your son hates you for a reason!
Marie Leczinska - I LOVE YOU <3333 Maria Leszczynska is so cool and pretty and smart and I love the fact that she PAINTED and we have some of her surviving works!!! I think she was really beautiful and surprisingly cultured and talented despite being undervalued by everyone except her children. I think she was an amazing Queen, an amazing mother, and a good person.
Louis XVI - Honestly, he was an adorable kid and I wish the french revolution didn't happen. Also I think he should get some self confidence lessons like bestie please you don't have to be a doormat.
Marie Antoinette - FASHION ICON!!!! I think she's very very cool and very very beautiful, I think Maria Leszczynska would've liked her had they met
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straight girls will post a picture of two women holding hands and kissing and tag it “best friend goals” but then be homophobic when a lesbian gets an undercut
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Royal Birthdays for today, March 23rd:
Go-Kogon, Emperor of Japan, 1336
Margaret of Anjou, Queen of England, 1430
Jahanara Begum, Mughal Princess, 1614
Madame Adelaide, French Princess, 1732
Felix Yusupov, Russian Royal, 1887
Madeleine de Bourbon-Busset, Duchess of Parma, 1898
Eugenie of York, British Princess, 1990
Beltrán Turnovski, Bulgarian Prince, 1999
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On this day in history, March 22nd, in 1761, Louis Joseph Xavier, Duke of Burgundy, died at the Palace of Versailles. He was the 4th child and eldest surviving son of Louis, Dauphin of France, and Maria Josepha of Saxony. His health had begun to deteriorate the previous year, after being pushed from a wooden toy horse by a playmate. He was eventually operated on in 1760, and he was diagnosed with tuberculosis of the bone. He died not long after, at the age of nine.
With his death, and his father’s four years later, his younger brother, the Duc de Berry, became Dauphin and would eventually succeed their grandfather as Louis XVI.
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Joseph at Isabella’s bedside after the birth of their daughter Maria Theresa. He was beside her throughout the delivery.
The watercolour was done by Joseph’s sister, Maria Christina, who added herself into the scene, wearing blue and standing next to the nurse who holds the newborn in her arms.
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A miniature said to represented Marie-Thérèse Charlotte, Madame Royale, by Louis-Marie Sicardi, dated 1786. Will be auctioned by Rémy Le Fur & Associés.  
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The hamlet of Mesdames (daughters of Louis XV) at the chateau de Bellevue by an unknown artist, 18th century.
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Happy Birthday to Marie Antoinette, who was born on November 2nd, 1755.
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I need to stop using my main blog for history posts jfc
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–Marie-Antoinette (2022)
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When something is Marie Antoinette approved
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Public Accuser. It seems to be proved, notwithstanding your denials, that through your influence over the ci-devant king, your consort, you made him do what you pleased. Queen. There is a wide difference between advising an action, and executing it.
–excerpt from the trial of Marie Antoinette, October 14-15, 1793
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On 13 October 1762 “the little child from Salzburg”—Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart—came with his father and sister Nannerl to Schönbrunn. He played the harpsichord in the presence of the Empress, the Emperor, the court composer Georg Christoph Wagenseil and various of Maria Teresa’s offspring, including Antoine who was three months older than the prodigy. The child played “marvellously,” was the verdict, and he was rewarded with an honorarium of 100 ducats and presents from other nobles. He was also presented with a fine outfit that had belonged to the Archduke Max, a coat of lilac colour and a moiré waistcoat, all trimmed with gold braid. The concert was repeated, again at Schönbrunn, a week later. Perhaps it is not true that the young Mozart flung himself at the young Marie Antoinette and declared that he would marry her when he grew up (an apocryphal story which, if it had in some amazing way come true, would certainly have altered the course of history). But his impetuosity was certainly in evidence; Antoine was present when he rushed up to the Empress and jumped on her lap, receiving a kiss in return. Mozart also responded to the Emperor’s teasing by accurately playing with one finger on a covered keyboard, and showed his own playfulness by demanding that Wagenseil should turn over his music for him, as he played the court composer’s own work. Shortly afterwards Mozart travelled on to France, where the French King’s daughter Madame Victoire became his patron, receiving a dedication of some piano sonatas in return. The Marquise de Pompadour was, however, less welcoming. “Who is this that will not kiss me?” inquired the “little Orpheus” of the haughty mistress: “The Empress kissed me.”
Marie Antoinette: The Journey - Antonia Fraser
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Isabella of Parma and Archduchess Maria Christina in Kaiserin Maria Theresia (1980)
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